At City, Liverpool and now Arsenal:
- All, or almost all, of their players have either been retained or signed by their manager. This means they all fit the particular system and style of football of their manager and so they can be interchanged more easily without losing much chemistry.
- These managers have also been at their clubs a minimum of 3 years which means every player has been totally converted to their manager’s system and style of play, they now only need to worry about integrating new players. The amount of time available to the managers on the training pitch is therefore less of a concern for them because they know their entire squad is already fully up to speed bar a few new players.
- Since they don’t need to worry about instilling their style of football, their main concern is avoiding fatigue and injuries.
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None of these are true for us. Potter has a squad full of players signed by multiple different managers and who suit multiple different styles of football.
This means he has had to come into the club mid season and try to convert an entire squad of players to his system and style of play whilst having little time on the training pitch to do so.
The only problem shared by Potter and the other managers is fatigue/injuries. All other issues have already been dealt with and moved on from by the others.
Another serious issue for us has been injuries. Year after year we get seemingly endless injuries, and it’s rarely short term or to a player we can do without, it’s almost always a key player. No James, no Fofana, no Chilwell, no Kante, previously had injuries to Kovacic and Koulibaly, all key players. Even Kepa got injured as soon as he finally found some form ffs.
The only one of those other three clubs who have been similarly troubled by injuries this season is Liverpool, and they have also been struggling so far. So people pointing to recent results as evidence that Potter isn’t good enough should look a bit deeper.
He has made mistakes but so does every manager, and while he obviously has a lot to prove and can’t just be allowed to simply fail for years before getting it right it’s far too early to make a judgment one way or the other.
Hopefully the World Cup is coming at the perfect time for him to take what he’s learned about the players so far and plan well for the rest of the season.
Patience Needed
posted on 10/11/22
I just get this feeling that this is the wrong appointment for Potter. Not sure about the new owners but they were quick to pull the trigger with Tuchel. Hope I'm wrong as I like Potter and have no beef with Chelsea
posted on 10/11/22
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 11 minutes ago
It’s just mad to me how everyone loved Potter and he was the number one choice of like 95% of football fans in the case of their manager leaving, yet two months into him being at Chelsea you’ve got loads of our fans already treating him like some incompetent moron.
Many of them are the same people who would b’tch about the people in charge of the club having no patience
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Hardly a surprise, Chelsea fans haven’t needed to have patience because of the way the club has been run for 20 years.
posted on 10/11/22
Creating an outstanding pottery item requires so many steps before the fine finished article is completed.
Source and prepare clay
Shape form on the wheel
Piece needs time to dry
Glazing and firing in Kiln
Some sanding to complete.
The arch Potter needs patience and many attempts at different variables to get it right.
We have the right man for the job...give him the time , ie remains of this season and the next, at very least, to complete a team to be feared.
Unfortunately the fans particularly the younger ones, demand success on a plate now.
Patience please!
posted on 10/11/22
He’s an excellent manager, who will get Chelsea playing good football which will eventually translate to results.
He will need time to do it though. His ideas are quite different to Tuchel’s, and as the OP has hinted at, he’ll want to a) assess the squad properly, b) work out which players he can reshape to meet his requirements, c) replace those he can’t, and d) whilst all that is going on, get the whole unit on the same page, clicking and fine tuned.
He’s probably somewhere at the back end of a) and start of b) at the moment. Next season is the time to start judging his work.
posted on 10/11/22
Chelsea aren't famous for giving managers a lot of time. If he doesn't get top 4 he's probably gone.
posted on 10/11/22
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matter (U1282)
posted 30 minutes ago
Chelsea aren't famous for giving managers a lot of time. If he doesn't get top 4 he's probably gone.
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While the sacking of Tuchel was absurd and way too soon it is a new regime so it’s premature to already put them in the same bracket as Abramovich in terms of patience.
They have their choice in place now so this is where they will prove that they mean what they’ve been saying about long term visions etc
posted on 10/11/22
The bigger issue will be the fans and the players. The owners can have all the will and patience in the world but once that starts to turn they are usually left little choice.
posted on 10/11/22
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 18 minutes ago
The bigger issue will be the fans and the players. The owners can have all the will and patience in the world but once that starts to turn they are usually left little choice.
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Correct
posted on 10/11/22
Saying 'We're in transition' has kept United fans quiet for the last decade.
Give that a go.
posted on 10/11/22
comment by Lisandro The King Martinez (U10026)
posted 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
The bigger issue will be the fans and the players. The owners can have all the will and patience in the world but once that starts to turn they are usually left little choice.
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Yet people like you always deny it's possible when I say the fans could easily get The Glazers out.