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Underwhelming

Anyone else found the close season somewhat underwhelming from a celtic point of view so far ?

1.Ange is away (disaster)
2.Jota is away (disaster hes irreplaceable imho)
3.Brendans back (good appointment but pressures on given the way he left )
4. 2 projects signed (remains to be seen how they turn out ? )
5.Mooy away(decent for us b4 injury but no big loss)
6.Calmac kyogo and maeda contract extensions (all well and good but doesn't improve the team as such )
7.where are the big signings to improve us ????With the loss of Jota we are currently weaker than last season ???
I'm not impressed so far

posted on 9/8/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 47 seconds ago
is this going again

i sort threads by most recently updated btw.
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Me anaw. Unfortunately

posted on 9/8/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
is this going again

i sort threads by most recently updated btw.
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it never started unless you seem to agree with him that the money in the europa is basically the same as the champ league for us.

posted on 9/8/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
I kept saying it was schite and I’d literally quoted Stewart Robertson saying that before you’ve now googled. The fee was roughly 17.5m last year before tickets. The prize money in the CL is way higher. But clearly need to get points on board for that to come into play…

The fee for EL groups if we get to CL playoff is 7m, there’s a 5m parachute payment. Our coefficient would now get us a 2m + share. Tv/market share depends how many clubs from Scotland are in. Likely 2m at least assuming Aberdeen don’t qualify. Then it’s almost 200k a point. So get 10 points and you’re talking 13m vs 19m or so losing every CL game. So not that different right now.

Saying 19m this year in CL as we’d get more of the coefficient split as it’s over 10 years.
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https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0277-158b0bea495a-ba6c18158cd3-1000/20220704_circular_2022_47_en.pdf

Read your own link whodunnit. I called market pool per that link market share back on page 11.

So as to not pollute the page today with your bile. But you keep believing CL is worth 40m to Rangers, despite Rangers saying that’s far off, and all press saying we got about 17.5m before tickets.
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You are are aware that I never gave any conclusinve figures to what we made, we dont have that info I can assure you it was more than Jas thinks it is.

tell us more about how teams dont get given extra tv revenue from a sperate pot after the comp is finished?

go on mock me for it again.....

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So total tv money comes from market pool - link refers to number of games impacting. Suggest you read that, what Rangers said themselves, what all press said etc.

You keep going on about extra tv, merch etc. all money comes from Uefa. And that is how it is split. I only compared total Uefa money from CL vs total Uefa money from EL.

I only differentiated on assumption we’d get through EL group.

We got 18m or so for CL from Uefa. Celtic would’ve got 28m or so. Difference down to coefficient
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tell me how rangers tickets sales for the CL come from Uefa, tell me how the money made in the kiosks comes from UEFA.

Like I said you comparing all the income garnered for the europa after at least 6 games and comparing it to the money brought in in prize money alone in the CL without playing any games.

keep it up, keep trying to convince everyone that the money in the europa for us is the same as the champ league or barely any difference!!

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If you go back I covered tickets. Expectation ticket money would be the same given there would be progress past Groups. My assumption on CL was based on this years results…. I.e we got no additional prize money as we got zero points, while we’ve got through EL groups last few years. So a clearly reasonable assumption.

Not sure what merch money you think comes from being in CL vs EL.

posted on 9/8/23

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
I kept saying it was schite and I’d literally quoted Stewart Robertson saying that before you’ve now googled. The fee was roughly 17.5m last year before tickets. The prize money in the CL is way higher. But clearly need to get points on board for that to come into play…

The fee for EL groups if we get to CL playoff is 7m, there’s a 5m parachute payment. Our coefficient would now get us a 2m + share. Tv/market share depends how many clubs from Scotland are in. Likely 2m at least assuming Aberdeen don’t qualify. Then it’s almost 200k a point. So get 10 points and you’re talking 13m vs 19m or so losing every CL game. So not that different right now.

Saying 19m this year in CL as we’d get more of the coefficient split as it’s over 10 years.
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https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0277-158b0bea495a-ba6c18158cd3-1000/20220704_circular_2022_47_en.pdf

Read your own link whodunnit. I called market pool per that link market share back on page 11.

So as to not pollute the page today with your bile. But you keep believing CL is worth 40m to Rangers, despite Rangers saying that’s far off, and all press saying we got about 17.5m before tickets.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You are are aware that I never gave any conclusinve figures to what we made, we dont have that info I can assure you it was more than Jas thinks it is.

tell us more about how teams dont get given extra tv revenue from a sperate pot after the comp is finished?

go on mock me for it again.....

----------------------------------------------------------------------

So total tv money comes from market pool - link refers to number of games impacting. Suggest you read that, what Rangers said themselves, what all press said etc.

You keep going on about extra tv, merch etc. all money comes from Uefa. And that is how it is split. I only compared total Uefa money from CL vs total Uefa money from EL.

I only differentiated on assumption we’d get through EL group.

We got 18m or so for CL from Uefa. Celtic would’ve got 28m or so. Difference down to coefficient
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tell me how rangers tickets sales for the CL come from Uefa, tell me how the money made in the kiosks comes from UEFA.

Like I said you comparing all the income garnered for the europa after at least 6 games and comparing it to the money brought in in prize money alone in the CL without playing any games.

keep it up, keep trying to convince everyone that the money in the europa for us is the same as the champ league or barely any difference!!

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If you go back I covered tickets. Expectation ticket money would be the same given there would be progress past Groups. My assumption on CL was based on this years results…. I.e we got no additional prize money as we got zero points, while we’ve got through EL groups last few years. So a clearly reasonable assumption.

Not sure what merch money you think comes from being in CL vs EL.
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would be the same yet you never included it in the total amount eanred for champ league but did for the europa. and its not about the same, champ league tickets cost more.

posted on 9/8/23

posted on 9/8/23

You guys should take a course at The Kerrydale School of Accountancy.
Or even teach courses.

posted on 9/8/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
I kept saying it was schite and I’d literally quoted Stewart Robertson saying that before you’ve now googled. The fee was roughly 17.5m last year before tickets. The prize money in the CL is way higher. But clearly need to get points on board for that to come into play…

The fee for EL groups if we get to CL playoff is 7m, there’s a 5m parachute payment. Our coefficient would now get us a 2m + share. Tv/market share depends how many clubs from Scotland are in. Likely 2m at least assuming Aberdeen don’t qualify. Then it’s almost 200k a point. So get 10 points and you’re talking 13m vs 19m or so losing every CL game. So not that different right now.

Saying 19m this year in CL as we’d get more of the coefficient split as it’s over 10 years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/0277-158b0bea495a-ba6c18158cd3-1000/20220704_circular_2022_47_en.pdf

Read your own link whodunnit. I called market pool per that link market share back on page 11.

So as to not pollute the page today with your bile. But you keep believing CL is worth 40m to Rangers, despite Rangers saying that’s far off, and all press saying we got about 17.5m before tickets.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You are are aware that I never gave any conclusinve figures to what we made, we dont have that info I can assure you it was more than Jas thinks it is.

tell us more about how teams dont get given extra tv revenue from a sperate pot after the comp is finished?

go on mock me for it again.....

----------------------------------------------------------------------

So total tv money comes from market pool - link refers to number of games impacting. Suggest you read that, what Rangers said themselves, what all press said etc.

You keep going on about extra tv, merch etc. all money comes from Uefa. And that is how it is split. I only compared total Uefa money from CL vs total Uefa money from EL.

I only differentiated on assumption we’d get through EL group.

We got 18m or so for CL from Uefa. Celtic would’ve got 28m or so. Difference down to coefficient
----------------------------------------------------------------------
tell me how rangers tickets sales for the CL come from Uefa, tell me how the money made in the kiosks comes from UEFA.

Like I said you comparing all the income garnered for the europa after at least 6 games and comparing it to the money brought in in prize money alone in the CL without playing any games.

keep it up, keep trying to convince everyone that the money in the europa for us is the same as the champ league or barely any difference!!

----------------------------------------------------------------------

If you go back I covered tickets. Expectation ticket money would be the same given there would be progress past Groups. My assumption on CL was based on this years results…. I.e we got no additional prize money as we got zero points, while we’ve got through EL groups last few years. So a clearly reasonable assumption.

Not sure what merch money you think comes from being in CL vs EL.
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would be the same yet you never included it in the total amount eanred for champ league but did for the europa. and its not about the same, champ league tickets cost more.
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That’s simply a lie. I never included ticket money in either.

CL tickets cost more, but more games in Europa if we get through groups obviously….. so equal.

posted on 9/8/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 53 minutes ago
is this going again

i sort threads by most recently updated btw.
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I go to my member page as I usually post on the politics thread it’s the easiest place to get to it.

posted on 9/8/23

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 minute ago
He’s not wrong.
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the fact your commenting here so quickly confirms a few things!!

till I see you replying on another random thread ...

Let me know if you want an autograpgh
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This is at the top of my feed and I don't remember posting on this thread. I assume it's at the top of bmcl's feed too. So hardly random.
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😂😂 sure thing sweetie 😘

posted on 9/8/23

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
is this going again

i sort threads by most recently updated btw.
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So do I. Wish I hadn’t. What a shambles.

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