Sportwashing

"due to all of that beheading stuff"

Never looks good in a glossy Advertising pamphlet does it...

The Process

Yes it’s a huge deal alright!

He can come out with all the reasons why he’s now signed up to LIV the money has to be the defining factor, the lad has a young family and at present with the way LIV is setup may probably work better for them.

The other thing which has been touched on is the fact the PGA and DP tours have also done a deal with LIV, which is more concerning than Rahm going LIV, it’s a slap in the face for the guys that stood by the two tours!

One concern is from a football point of view, at present there’s no plans for the Saudi Pro League to be allowed into the Champions League, will that change or is there a bigger picture of some sort of competition with another attempt to form a European Super League and then involving the Saudi’s and whoever else!

Tjeir is a ufficiale FIFA 32 team club world cup in summer 2025

Eggspecked that will kick start the beginnin of the end

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comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
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comment by >💲Baz tard🦍+❄️=? (U19119)
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Take athletics, for example, where virtually every Western nation extends passports to African athletes to run under their flag

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France and England wouldn’t be the sides they are without this
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Which England players were born outside of England/don't have some sort of English heritage? Genuine question.
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Sterling?
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Tomori
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One was Jamaica and one was Canadian. Any Africans?

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Has anyone here ever watched a Liv Golf event or Saudi Football League game?
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Not me. I have never flew Qatar or Emirate airlines either.

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Do you want a medal or something...?
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Why would I want a medal? Are you ret@rded?

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Sport washing is a term used by people to support their own agenda and who generally have minds that are influenced by social media.

The Qatar sport washing notion I really found quite laughable to be honest considering they just held a World Cup and have their hands in a multitude of global sports.
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It's definitely an overused term which is often wrongly applied, and I think even in instances where there is an element of laundering reputations it's often one of a number of factors. A middle eastern dictatorship might be interested in the long-term economic benefits of having sport and leisure as a keystone of their economy, and might see short-term profit opportunities, while also understanding that they have a PR problem due to all of that beheading stuff, and being linked to nicer things like smiling faces after a famous athlete scores a lovely goal helps on that side. The less obvious the return on investment, the more one is entitled to question whether these factors are in play.

Where I'd take issue with you is the proposition (if I understood right) that because Qatar already had the WC, etc., it's absurd to think that further investments, such as buying United, are motivated by sportswashing. I don't see sportswashing as necessarily a one-off act whereby you wash the dirty reputation and then it's clean. Bad PR will always be out there, and the motivation is to counterbalance it. It's a strategy, and if the architect judges that it is successful in drawing enough attention away from negative stories and attitudes, isn't it natural that this would encourage more such investments?
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You don’t understand me right. My point really is that Qatar wouldn’t really gain anything Sports Washing wise really f they bought United.

LIV golf and the Saudi league have not tempted me to change an opinion on the Saudis or watch these sporting events.

And I imagine this would be the same for most people.

It doesn’t matter anyway as the Qataris have been told rightfully to fack off. Good riddance

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 56 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Has anyone here ever watched a Liv Golf event or Saudi Football League game?
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Not me. I have never flew Qatar or Emirate airlines either.

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Do you want a medal or something...?
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Why would I want a medal? Are you ret@rded?
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You sound like you are trying to get credit for something...

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Sport washing is a term used by people to support their own agenda and who generally have minds that are influenced by social media.

The Qatar sport washing notion I really found quite laughable to be honest considering they just held a World Cup and have their hands in a multitude of global sports.
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It's definitely an overused term which is often wrongly applied, and I think even in instances where there is an element of laundering reputations it's often one of a number of factors. A middle eastern dictatorship might be interested in the long-term economic benefits of having sport and leisure as a keystone of their economy, and might see short-term profit opportunities, while also understanding that they have a PR problem due to all of that beheading stuff, and being linked to nicer things like smiling faces after a famous athlete scores a lovely goal helps on that side. The less obvious the return on investment, the more one is entitled to question whether these factors are in play.

Where I'd take issue with you is the proposition (if I understood right) that because Qatar already had the WC, etc., it's absurd to think that further investments, such as buying United, are motivated by sportswashing. I don't see sportswashing as necessarily a one-off act whereby you wash the dirty reputation and then it's clean. Bad PR will always be out there, and the motivation is to counterbalance it. It's a strategy, and if the architect judges that it is successful in drawing enough attention away from negative stories and attitudes, isn't it natural that this would encourage more such investments?
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You don’t understand me right. My point really is that Qatar wouldn’t really gain anything Sports Washing wise really f they bought United.

LIV golf and the Saudi league have not tempted me to change an opinion on the Saudis or watch these sporting events.

And I imagine this would be the same for most people.
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These countries are playing a long game, imo.

Public perception changes slowly and gradually over the years. People's opinions aren't always as immovable as they appear. Just look at how far right ideologies have slowly been gaining ground around the world in recent years.

Qatar have been organising international events for decades now, gradually aiming higher and higher. It might not sway your opinion, but generations of kids won't have such strong preconceived opinions.

Today's kids will soon be major earners, consumers and decision-makers. Millions upon millions of them lap up all the sports content you can thrown at them. Football being at the forefront of that, and United being one of the biggest names worldwide, would have given Qatar a massive platform for self-promotion.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Sport washing is a term used by people to support their own agenda and who generally have minds that are influenced by social media.

The Qatar sport washing notion I really found quite laughable to be honest considering they just held a World Cup and have their hands in a multitude of global sports.
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It's definitely an overused term which is often wrongly applied, and I think even in instances where there is an element of laundering reputations it's often one of a number of factors. A middle eastern dictatorship might be interested in the long-term economic benefits of having sport and leisure as a keystone of their economy, and might see short-term profit opportunities, while also understanding that they have a PR problem due to all of that beheading stuff, and being linked to nicer things like smiling faces after a famous athlete scores a lovely goal helps on that side. The less obvious the return on investment, the more one is entitled to question whether these factors are in play.

Where I'd take issue with you is the proposition (if I understood right) that because Qatar already had the WC, etc., it's absurd to think that further investments, such as buying United, are motivated by sportswashing. I don't see sportswashing as necessarily a one-off act whereby you wash the dirty reputation and then it's clean. Bad PR will always be out there, and the motivation is to counterbalance it. It's a strategy, and if the architect judges that it is successful in drawing enough attention away from negative stories and attitudes, isn't it natural that this would encourage more such investments?
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You don’t understand me right. My point really is that Qatar wouldn’t really gain anything Sports Washing wise really f they bought United.

LIV golf and the Saudi league have not tempted me to change an opinion on the Saudis or watch these sporting events.

And I imagine this would be the same for most people.
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If anything, as a city fan at least, I’ve always thought it’s had the opposite effect of what some think it has.