Whilst it is non Spurs related I wanted to wish RH all the best and hope that he now puts his feet up and enjoy retirement.
However it is another manager who has been hospitalised I want to talk about, Tony Mowbray at Birmingham who has had to stand back from managing the team due to health issues discovered during a routine League Managers Association medical.
This was obviously very important for Tony and other managers and is credit to the LMA.
However I am baffled and astounded that it is the LMA that is carrying out these medical checks & not the managers/coaches clubs.
Clubs constantly monitor and check players health and well being, yet apparently do not necessarily apply the same level of care and attention for their managers.
I suppose I should not be surprised as clubs will always replace the manager when results are not good, rarely do the players suffer.
I would be happy to be proved wrong that clubs don’t afford managers the same level of health & wellbeing that they accord to players.
I would certainly hope that Spurs with their state of the art facilities do monitor the health of their managers and other non playing staff.
Roy Hodgson/Tony Mowbray
posted on 22/2/24
Best of luck to Mogga, a real gent
posted on 22/2/24
Managers can mind their own health like everyone else.
posted on 22/2/24
comment by "Just stay away from white conservative p... (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Managers can mind their own health like everyone else.
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I think this is the correct answer
posted on 22/2/24
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by "Just stay away from white conservative p... (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Managers can mind their own health like everyone else.
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I think this is the correct answer
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Actually ALL employers both in and outside of football have a duty of care for the health & welfare of their employees.
I have never been in a union, but I also recognise the huge benefits they provide for their members which should be their employers responsibility.
Ted, living in the States you should acknowledge that a lot of employees are not covered by insurance through their employers. The reason medical costs are so high over there is purely down to the insurance companies.
Over here we are blessed with the NHS, creaking as it might be it is still way better than the American system.
I was just pointing out that football clubs appear the have a hierarchy in terms of treatment, with players at the top of the pyramid.
posted on 23/2/24
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by "Just stay away from white conservative p... (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Managers can mind their own health like everyone else.
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I think this is the correct answer
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Actually ALL employers both in and outside of football have a duty of care for the health & welfare of their employees.
I have never been in a union, but I also recognise the huge benefits they provide for their members which should be their employers responsibility.
Ted, living in the States you should acknowledge that a lot of employees are not covered by insurance through their employers. The reason medical costs are so high over there is purely down to the insurance companies.
Over here we are blessed with the NHS, creaking as it might be it is still way better than the American system.
I was just pointing out that football clubs appear the have a hierarchy in terms of treatment, with players at the top of the pyramid.
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Yes, you're right about USA medical costs being higher than they should be, compared to other advanced countries. High costs are due to a combination of medical providers and politicians in their pockets, who refuse to allow Medicare to negotiate costs. Insurance companies would love lower costs because they could lower their charges and get more customers.
However, the other side of the coin is that the top medical practice (hospitals and physicians) in USA is second to none.
As for the British National Health Service, ...it killed my brother. Botched a routine heart operation by giving it to a first year resident. The NHS is so bad that ALL my London friends go private. So they are basically using an American system!
The question of employers providing employee health insurance is double edged. My employer does indeed provide my insurance and it is very good. But other employers, especially small ones, may not afford to be so generous. Unions, well that's another discussion.
If Donald Trump gets back into office, I shudder to think what may happen on such issues as medical insurance.
He tried to kill "Obama Care" last time!
posted on 23/2/24
By Medical Providers, I am referring to Hospital Systems and Pharmaceutical companies.
posted on 23/2/24
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 19 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by "Just stay away from white conservative p... (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Managers can mind their own health like everyone else.
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I think this is the correct answer
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually ALL employers both in and outside of football have a duty of care for the health & welfare of their employees.
I have never been in a union, but I also recognise the huge benefits they provide for their members which should be their employers responsibility.
Ted, living in the States you should acknowledge that a lot of employees are not covered by insurance through their employers. The reason medical costs are so high over there is purely down to the insurance companies.
Over here we are blessed with the NHS, creaking as it might be it is still way better than the American system.
I was just pointing out that football clubs appear the have a hierarchy in terms of treatment, with players at the top of the pyramid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, you're right about USA medical costs being higher than they should be, compared to other advanced countries. High costs are due to a combination of medical providers and politicians in their pockets, who refuse to allow Medicare to negotiate costs. Insurance companies would love lower costs because they could lower their charges and get more customers.
However, the other side of the coin is that the top medical practice (hospitals and physicians) in USA is second to none.
As for the British National Health Service, ...it killed my brother. Botched a routine heart operation by giving it to a first year resident. The NHS is so bad that ALL my London friends go private. So they are basically using an American system!
The question of employers providing employee health insurance is double edged. My employer does indeed provide my insurance and it is very good. But other employers, especially small ones, may not afford to be so generous. Unions, well that's another discussion.
If Donald Trump gets back into office, I shudder to think what may happen on such issues as medical insurance.
He tried to kill "Obama Care" last time!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Sorry to hear about your brother. Indeed some areas of the NHS urgently need reform, there are more non medical people working in it than clinicians. Since PFI was started it has almost bankrupted some Trusts, for instance it can cost a hospital around £125-150 just to have a light bulb changed, and most decent sized hospitals have thousands of light bulbs.
My daughter lives in LA and is fortunately covered by her companies medical insurance. However when she first moved there she had no cover and cut her hand, she went to hospital and had 6 stitches, they wanted $1600 for such a basic treatment. I rang the hospital and negotiated this down to $350, of course the price used was based on it being settled by insurance.
posted on 23/2/24
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 19 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by "Just stay away from white conservative p... (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Managers can mind their own health like everyone else.
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I think this is the correct answer
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually ALL employers both in and outside of football have a duty of care for the health & welfare of their employees.
I have never been in a union, but I also recognise the huge benefits they provide for their members which should be their employers responsibility.
Ted, living in the States you should acknowledge that a lot of employees are not covered by insurance through their employers. The reason medical costs are so high over there is purely down to the insurance companies.
Over here we are blessed with the NHS, creaking as it might be it is still way better than the American system.
I was just pointing out that football clubs appear the have a hierarchy in terms of treatment, with players at the top of the pyramid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, you're right about USA medical costs being higher than they should be, compared to other advanced countries. High costs are due to a combination of medical providers and politicians in their pockets, who refuse to allow Medicare to negotiate costs. Insurance companies would love lower costs because they could lower their charges and get more customers.
However, the other side of the coin is that the top medical practice (hospitals and physicians) in USA is second to none.
As for the British National Health Service, ...it killed my brother. Botched a routine heart operation by giving it to a first year resident. The NHS is so bad that ALL my London friends go private. So they are basically using an American system!
The question of employers providing employee health insurance is double edged. My employer does indeed provide my insurance and it is very good. But other employers, especially small ones, may not afford to be so generous. Unions, well that's another discussion.
If Donald Trump gets back into office, I shudder to think what may happen on such issues as medical insurance.
He tried to kill "Obama Care" last time!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Sorry to hear about your brother. Indeed some areas of the NHS urgently need reform, there are more non medical people working in it than clinicians. Since PFI was started it has almost bankrupted some Trusts, for instance it can cost a hospital around £125-150 just to have a light bulb changed, and most decent sized hospitals have thousands of light bulbs.
My daughter lives in LA and is fortunately covered by her companies medical insurance. However when she first moved there she had no cover and cut her hand, she went to hospital and had 6 stitches, they wanted $1600 for such a basic treatment. I rang the hospital and negotiated this down to $350, of course the price used was based on it being settled by insurance.
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Oh yes, the hospital's line item price has nothing to do with the price they negotiate with Medicare and Insurance companies.
You must be a good negotiator!
posted on 23/2/24
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 19 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by "Just stay away from white conservative p... (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Managers can mind their own health like everyone else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this is the correct answer
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually ALL employers both in and outside of football have a duty of care for the health & welfare of their employees.
I have never been in a union, but I also recognise the huge benefits they provide for their members which should be their employers responsibility.
Ted, living in the States you should acknowledge that a lot of employees are not covered by insurance through their employers. The reason medical costs are so high over there is purely down to the insurance companies.
Over here we are blessed with the NHS, creaking as it might be it is still way better than the American system.
I was just pointing out that football clubs appear the have a hierarchy in terms of treatment, with players at the top of the pyramid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, you're right about USA medical costs being higher than they should be, compared to other advanced countries. High costs are due to a combination of medical providers and politicians in their pockets, who refuse to allow Medicare to negotiate costs. Insurance companies would love lower costs because they could lower their charges and get more customers.
However, the other side of the coin is that the top medical practice (hospitals and physicians) in USA is second to none.
As for the British National Health Service, ...it killed my brother. Botched a routine heart operation by giving it to a first year resident. The NHS is so bad that ALL my London friends go private. So they are basically using an American system!
The question of employers providing employee health insurance is double edged. My employer does indeed provide my insurance and it is very good. But other employers, especially small ones, may not afford to be so generous. Unions, well that's another discussion.
If Donald Trump gets back into office, I shudder to think what may happen on such issues as medical insurance.
He tried to kill "Obama Care" last time!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Sorry to hear about your brother. Indeed some areas of the NHS urgently need reform, there are more non medical people working in it than clinicians. Since PFI was started it has almost bankrupted some Trusts, for instance it can cost a hospital around £125-150 just to have a light bulb changed, and most decent sized hospitals have thousands of light bulbs.
My daughter lives in LA and is fortunately covered by her companies medical insurance. However when she first moved there she had no cover and cut her hand, she went to hospital and had 6 stitches, they wanted $1600 for such a basic treatment. I rang the hospital and negotiated this down to $350, of course the price used was based on it being settled by insurance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh yes, the hospital's line item price has nothing to do with the price they negotiate with Medicare and Insurance companies.
You must be a good negotiator!
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I just told them she didn’t have the money and they would be wasting more money chasing her for it. I said I would pay a reasonable amount instantly by credit card and they accepted. I do find it strange that the World’s most powerful nation and one of the richest has such a tiered system when it comes to healthcare.
I was in LA in November and I was amazed at how expensive things had got although it is similar all over the World.
LA is the 4th most expensive city in the World & California’s economy is bigger than many countries including the UK, France etc only lagging behind China, Japan, Germany and of course the USA. It is the 5th biggest economy in the World.
posted on 24/2/24
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 2 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 19 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by "Just stay away from white conservative p... (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Managers can mind their own health like everyone else.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think this is the correct answer
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually ALL employers both in and outside of football have a duty of care for the health & welfare of their employees.
I have never been in a union, but I also recognise the huge benefits they provide for their members which should be their employers responsibility.
Ted, living in the States you should acknowledge that a lot of employees are not covered by insurance through their employers. The reason medical costs are so high over there is purely down to the insurance companies.
Over here we are blessed with the NHS, creaking as it might be it is still way better than the American system.
I was just pointing out that football clubs appear the have a hierarchy in terms of treatment, with players at the top of the pyramid.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, you're right about USA medical costs being higher than they should be, compared to other advanced countries. High costs are due to a combination of medical providers and politicians in their pockets, who refuse to allow Medicare to negotiate costs. Insurance companies would love lower costs because they could lower their charges and get more customers.
However, the other side of the coin is that the top medical practice (hospitals and physicians) in USA is second to none.
As for the British National Health Service, ...it killed my brother. Botched a routine heart operation by giving it to a first year resident. The NHS is so bad that ALL my London friends go private. So they are basically using an American system!
The question of employers providing employee health insurance is double edged. My employer does indeed provide my insurance and it is very good. But other employers, especially small ones, may not afford to be so generous. Unions, well that's another discussion.
If Donald Trump gets back into office, I shudder to think what may happen on such issues as medical insurance.
He tried to kill "Obama Care" last time!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ted
Sorry to hear about your brother. Indeed some areas of the NHS urgently need reform, there are more non medical people working in it than clinicians. Since PFI was started it has almost bankrupted some Trusts, for instance it can cost a hospital around £125-150 just to have a light bulb changed, and most decent sized hospitals have thousands of light bulbs.
My daughter lives in LA and is fortunately covered by her companies medical insurance. However when she first moved there she had no cover and cut her hand, she went to hospital and had 6 stitches, they wanted $1600 for such a basic treatment. I rang the hospital and negotiated this down to $350, of course the price used was based on it being settled by insurance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh yes, the hospital's line item price has nothing to do with the price they negotiate with Medicare and Insurance companies.
You must be a good negotiator!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I just told them she didn’t have the money and they would be wasting more money chasing her for it. I said I would pay a reasonable amount instantly by credit card and they accepted. I do find it strange that the World’s most powerful nation and one of the richest has such a tiered system when it comes to healthcare.
I was in LA in November and I was amazed at how expensive things had got although it is similar all over the World.
LA is the 4th most expensive city in the World & California’s economy is bigger than many countries including the UK, France etc only lagging behind China, Japan, Germany and of course the USA. It is the 5th biggest economy in the World.
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yeah, I hate LA. I lived there for a couple of years but couldn't stand it. The LA basin was ruined by over population after WWII. People are very nice, polite, but have nothing much to say. I had a great living situation, up in Laurel Canyon with a panoramic view. I watched an earthquake happen. 7am just after sunrise. The wave pattern on the ocean changed direction. Power lines came down. And when the shaking stopped, there was total silence for 5 seconds. And then the dogs began to bark, all over town.