Looking at the Mainoo post, there was a comment about certain players, who have been great or good for club but not so much for their country.
A number of reasons can be linked to this, like not enough game time (Fowler, Wrighty etc) , paying out of position (Scholes) even criticism from the press/fans which may have played a part (Barnes).
I was going to make a team but struggled with a few positions but looking back to the late 70's onwards, here are a few names who imo should have done better!
Francis
Hoddle
Barnes
Le-Tissier
Wrighty
Fowler
Cole
Scholes
Any more?
Some may scoff at Scholes but for his talent, and excellent early promise, including a hat-trick against Poland and two against the Scots, he peaked too early for England, unlike Utd.
England Underachievers
posted on 20/3/24
Rooney
Scholes
Rashford
G.Neville
posted on 20/3/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 28 minutes ago
Dunno, during the late 80s he was very successful. Never able to displace Shilton though.
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Growing up watching both, I always thought Clemence was the better of the two.
I seem to remember them playing alternately for England and Shilton only really became first choice when Clemence retired from international football.
posted on 20/3/24
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 28 minutes ago
Dunno, during the late 80s he was very successful. Never able to displace Shilton though.
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Growing up watching both, I always thought Clemence was the better of the two.
I seem to remember them playing alternately for England and Shilton only really became first choice when Clemence retired from international football.
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That bit was about Woods, but didn't Clemence retire from England with a fair few years left in him? Pretty much stopped playing for England when he left Liverpool didn't he?
posted on 20/3/24
Joe Cole? In fairness he wasn't consistently great in club Football.
posted on 20/3/24
I always thought Le Tissier was unlucky not to be picked more.
Little did I know that it was Bill Gates and the lizard people trying to silence him.
posted on 20/3/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by Custardeyes (U4500)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 28 minutes ago
Dunno, during the late 80s he was very successful. Never able to displace Shilton though.
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Growing up watching both, I always thought Clemence was the better of the two.
I seem to remember them playing alternately for England and Shilton only really became first choice when Clemence retired from international football.
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That bit was about Woods, but didn't Clemence retire from England with a fair few years left in him? Pretty much stopped playing for England when he left Liverpool didn't he?
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Ahh, sorry. Yeah, I remember Ray playing quite a while after retiring from England.
posted on 20/3/24
comment by Jalisco Red - And It Was All Diallo (U4195)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
I always thought Le Tissier was unlucky not to be picked more.
Little did I know that it was Bill Gates and the lizard people trying to silence him.
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posted on 20/3/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 6 hours ago
I always thought Rio (and Ashley Cole) were very good for England too.
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Ashley Cole was brilliant for England, easily the most consistent performer of his generation
posted on 21/3/24
comment by Edinspur - Plan B FC (U1109)
posted 22 hours, 12 minutes ago
Didnt Keegan disappoint in tournaments? I recall hearing that somewhere on a podcast
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he wasn't properly fit at WC '82
posted on 8/4/24
For Scholes, you can thank managers who were too scared not to play Lampard and Gerrard at the same time.