He plays for a team where almost every player is injury prone and inconsistent. He'll get enough game time when Cazorla gets injured or is out of form
comment by Ramböue (U12551)
posted 1 minute ago
He plays for a team where almost every player is injury prone and inconsistent. He'll get enough game time when Cazorla gets injured or is out of form
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Shouldn't he be straight back in now though? After all, for all the money you spent and quality he has, he should be back in that team alongside Cazorla and Sanchez, With Rosicky and Coquelin behind him.
It has been a transfer on par or not far off Torres, before arsenal fans go on the defensive, Ozil has done literally nothing to justify the £42M price tag (as Torres didn't) such a fail by Wenger/Arsenal board.
Shouldn't he be straight back in now though? After all, for all the money you spent and quality he has,
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No. Money and reputation are no reason to guarantee starts. He has to fight for his place the same way a £100k signing would have to.
At the moment we are playing well and winning.
Ozil will get his chance, and if he performs well he will keep his place. Simple as that.
Ozil only just came bk to full fitness. For once we are in a position where we can ease players bk into the team.
How many more of these articles are we gonna have?
Torres was bought by Chelsea for 50 million to score goals. He didn't do this enough for your liking and you got rid.
Ozil was bought by Arsenal for 42 million to add quality that could help end our trophy drought and push us towards a title fight. Someone who could fill a Cesc sized hole.
He did the first two of these things inside his first season. FA Cup win in which he played an important role, and he was pivotal to our title campaign in the first half of the season. We collapsed when he, Ramsey and Walcott all got injured and Wenger didn't buy in January.
Whilst Ozil has been far from a perfect signing and hasn't yet filled that hole left by Fabregas, he has been the closest to doing this, and that includes Cazorla.
Cazorla has experienced two very good periods of form for Arsenal, the first in his first season and the second over the last two months. I love Cazorla but he still isn't the same kind of player as Fabregas, I would have loved to see the two play together.
Ozil fits the Fabregas mould better, and his criticisms have been vastly overstated.
Lost me at Welbeck up front. Can't hold a candle to Giroud. We don't play 2 strikers up front, and Welbeck's holdup, linkup, and box play is poor compared Giroud and even Bambi.
Wide forward for me. Give's us a Theo-like option on the left flank (still behind Alexis in that use case), but otherwise benchwarmer until he improves.
I just think in terms of your style, Welbeck fits better for me personally.
Cazorla is out of form when he's out wide, constantly being played in different positions.
When he's played through the middle consistently, his performances improve and he's one of Arsenals best players. As he was in that position before Ozil, and as he has been recently.
So play with all 3 going through the middle? Sanchez can drift into wide positions whereas Ozil can run beyond the striker and Cazorla can create the openings and opportunities.
Or play with a diamond? Sanchez and Ozil drift wide, Cazorla a little deeper in the centre with the forward at the tip of the diamond. That could work.
Welbeck doesn't fit our style as a striker at all. The fact he is hopeless up front is enough evidence of that.
Your a funny guy you know that. Your very critical of your team and I've read it on a few occasions now. This and the Douglas Costa thread being two of them in the last minute.
I think Welbeck makes for a top striker up top and his energy, pace and work rate should be enough to get him the goals as long as the service is right for him. Which with the lies of Cazorla, Ozil, Sanchez etc, that should be no problem really.
And you are full of contradictions... as proved on the Dougie Costa thread.
That isn't contraction, that's called arguing both sides. Look at things in a positive fashion rather than being so negative all the time. There will obviously be problems with any article/situation at a club and you do nothing but be negative and moan about Arsenal. I'm not even a fan/follower of the club and I speak more positively than you do. Get a grip.
So you argue one thing on one thread, then go on another and argue the complete opposite and you aren't contradicting yourself?
As for the accusations of negative, Saying we don't need Douglas Costa because we are well covered already is negative?
Well, your never, "he could be a good signing, although maybe he isn't the player we needed". Your always negative. "We don't need him". Ok, maybe you don't but at least try to say something positive for a change instead of bringing a downer onto everything.
Yes, that isn't contradicting because if you read what I put, it' about arguing both sides of the case. Positive and negative. You are one of the most drab posters I've seen on this site (in my short few days on here) and no surprise, your a bitter Arsenal fan.
Welbeck probably does suit our style better but he os no where near as effective as Giroud
Diamond could work for us at times.
Coq
Ramsey Cazorla
Ozil
Welbs/Theo Sanchez
Forwards drifting wide at times and Ozil become the false 9. Could rip apart some weaker teams with that.
You need a deep lying forward to drag defenders out of position and then to have wide men running towards the goal, which already creates the angle for the pass, so you can get in behind teams defence. That's how a diamond works.
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 55 minutes ago
Diamond could work for us at times.
Coq
Ramsey Cazorla
Ozil
Welbs/Theo Sanchez
Forwards drifting wide at times and Ozil become the false 9. Could rip apart some weaker teams with that.
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Ahaha anything to shoe-horn Welbeck into the team? Face it. he's a good utility player for the team (Kalou?), But he's weaker up front (Giroud), out left (Alexis) and out right (Theo, Ox, Ozil) than other players in the team with everyone fit.
Hopefully he can sort out his reading of the game over the next 2 years. Never a starter now though.
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posted on 27/1/15
He plays for a team where almost every player is injury prone and inconsistent. He'll get enough game time when Cazorla gets injured or is out of form
posted on 27/1/15
Wth is this?
posted on 27/1/15
comment by Ramböue (U12551)
posted 1 minute ago
He plays for a team where almost every player is injury prone and inconsistent. He'll get enough game time when Cazorla gets injured or is out of form
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Shouldn't he be straight back in now though? After all, for all the money you spent and quality he has, he should be back in that team alongside Cazorla and Sanchez, With Rosicky and Coquelin behind him.
posted on 27/1/15
It has been a transfer on par or not far off Torres, before arsenal fans go on the defensive, Ozil has done literally nothing to justify the £42M price tag (as Torres didn't) such a fail by Wenger/Arsenal board.
posted on 27/1/15
Fair point ^^
posted on 27/1/15
Shouldn't he be straight back in now though? After all, for all the money you spent and quality he has,
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No. Money and reputation are no reason to guarantee starts. He has to fight for his place the same way a £100k signing would have to.
At the moment we are playing well and winning.
Ozil will get his chance, and if he performs well he will keep his place. Simple as that.
posted on 27/1/15
Ozil only just came bk to full fitness. For once we are in a position where we can ease players bk into the team.
posted on 27/1/15
How many more of these articles are we gonna have?
posted on 27/1/15
Torres was bought by Chelsea for 50 million to score goals. He didn't do this enough for your liking and you got rid.
Ozil was bought by Arsenal for 42 million to add quality that could help end our trophy drought and push us towards a title fight. Someone who could fill a Cesc sized hole.
He did the first two of these things inside his first season. FA Cup win in which he played an important role, and he was pivotal to our title campaign in the first half of the season. We collapsed when he, Ramsey and Walcott all got injured and Wenger didn't buy in January.
Whilst Ozil has been far from a perfect signing and hasn't yet filled that hole left by Fabregas, he has been the closest to doing this, and that includes Cazorla.
Cazorla has experienced two very good periods of form for Arsenal, the first in his first season and the second over the last two months. I love Cazorla but he still isn't the same kind of player as Fabregas, I would have loved to see the two play together.
Ozil fits the Fabregas mould better, and his criticisms have been vastly overstated.
posted on 27/1/15
Lost me at Welbeck up front. Can't hold a candle to Giroud. We don't play 2 strikers up front, and Welbeck's holdup, linkup, and box play is poor compared Giroud and even Bambi.
Wide forward for me. Give's us a Theo-like option on the left flank (still behind Alexis in that use case), but otherwise benchwarmer until he improves.
posted on 27/1/15
I just think in terms of your style, Welbeck fits better for me personally.
posted on 27/1/15
Cazorla is out of form when he's out wide, constantly being played in different positions.
When he's played through the middle consistently, his performances improve and he's one of Arsenals best players. As he was in that position before Ozil, and as he has been recently.
posted on 27/1/15
So play with all 3 going through the middle? Sanchez can drift into wide positions whereas Ozil can run beyond the striker and Cazorla can create the openings and opportunities.
Or play with a diamond? Sanchez and Ozil drift wide, Cazorla a little deeper in the centre with the forward at the tip of the diamond. That could work.
posted on 27/1/15
Welbeck doesn't fit our style as a striker at all. The fact he is hopeless up front is enough evidence of that.
posted on 27/1/15
Your a funny guy you know that. Your very critical of your team and I've read it on a few occasions now. This and the Douglas Costa thread being two of them in the last minute.
I think Welbeck makes for a top striker up top and his energy, pace and work rate should be enough to get him the goals as long as the service is right for him. Which with the lies of Cazorla, Ozil, Sanchez etc, that should be no problem really.
posted on 27/1/15
And you are full of contradictions... as proved on the Dougie Costa thread.
posted on 27/1/15
The OP stinks.
posted on 27/1/15
That isn't contraction, that's called arguing both sides. Look at things in a positive fashion rather than being so negative all the time. There will obviously be problems with any article/situation at a club and you do nothing but be negative and moan about Arsenal. I'm not even a fan/follower of the club and I speak more positively than you do. Get a grip.
posted on 27/1/15
contradiction*
posted on 27/1/15
So you argue one thing on one thread, then go on another and argue the complete opposite and you aren't contradicting yourself?
As for the accusations of negative, Saying we don't need Douglas Costa because we are well covered already is negative?
posted on 27/1/15
Well, your never, "he could be a good signing, although maybe he isn't the player we needed". Your always negative. "We don't need him". Ok, maybe you don't but at least try to say something positive for a change instead of bringing a downer onto everything.
Yes, that isn't contradicting because if you read what I put, it' about arguing both sides of the case. Positive and negative. You are one of the most drab posters I've seen on this site (in my short few days on here) and no surprise, your a bitter Arsenal fan.
posted on 27/1/15
Welbeck probably does suit our style better but he os no where near as effective as Giroud
posted on 27/1/15
Diamond could work for us at times.
Coq
Ramsey Cazorla
Ozil
Welbs/Theo Sanchez
Forwards drifting wide at times and Ozil become the false 9. Could rip apart some weaker teams with that.
posted on 27/1/15
You need a deep lying forward to drag defenders out of position and then to have wide men running towards the goal, which already creates the angle for the pass, so you can get in behind teams defence. That's how a diamond works.
posted on 27/1/15
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 55 minutes ago
Diamond could work for us at times.
Coq
Ramsey Cazorla
Ozil
Welbs/Theo Sanchez
Forwards drifting wide at times and Ozil become the false 9. Could rip apart some weaker teams with that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ahaha anything to shoe-horn Welbeck into the team? Face it. he's a good utility player for the team (Kalou?), But he's weaker up front (Giroud), out left (Alexis) and out right (Theo, Ox, Ozil) than other players in the team with everyone fit.
Hopefully he can sort out his reading of the game over the next 2 years. Never a starter now though.
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