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posted on 1/10/21

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 22 hours, 49 minutes ago
60s setting would be fine, but if you're supposed to root for Bond surely him being a chauvinist still would just make uncomfortable watch for a lot of people?
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Only for the offended by everything minority though. That's how Bond has always been. Even Craig's Bond, particularly in Casino Royale when he says to Vesper that she wasn't his type as he only went with married women. Or when he doesn't register any emotion seeing the body of the girl he bedded the night before.
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Isn’t he supposed to be a high functioning sociopath?
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I don't think so. Watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service where he falls in love and gets married. After that movie he's lost his true love and finds the chauvinistic approach to women more convenient and suited to his lifestyle I guess. Although he was doing that anyway in the previous Connery movies
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Diana Rigg would have been huge high maintenance...he'd have binned her as Mrs Bond inside 6 months

posted on 1/10/21

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 22 hours, 49 minutes ago
60s setting would be fine, but if you're supposed to root for Bond surely him being a chauvinist still would just make uncomfortable watch for a lot of people?
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Only for the offended by everything minority though. That's how Bond has always been. Even Craig's Bond, particularly in Casino Royale when he says to Vesper that she wasn't his type as he only went with married women. Or when he doesn't register any emotion seeing the body of the girl he bedded the night before.
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Craig's Bond is clearly all front in this department though. It's one of the things that actually makes him quite different from the others. If that's not the intention Craig's acting is off.

The womanising trait of Bond is meant to enhance the stylistic nature of the character, like the cars & gadgets, not be a character point (way I've always seen it anyway). And hence moving forward, as Bond adapts with the times, he'll be less overtly chauvinistic as that becomes less "cool".

If Bond was to become more obviously chauvinistic it would be hilarious if it was a woman. Completely flip the script
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She'd be known as ho ho 7

posted on 1/10/21

If Bond was to become more obviously chauvinistic it would be hilarious if it was a woman.




That would be amazing if they made him someone like juice terry from Irvine Welsh’s glue book

posted on 1/10/21

ho ho 7 would go down well with the feminists I'm sure

posted on 1/10/21

Next Bond should be Squid Game Player 001

posted on 1/10/21

comment by FC Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 22 hours, 49 minutes ago
60s setting would be fine, but if you're supposed to root for Bond surely him being a chauvinist still would just make uncomfortable watch for a lot of people?
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Only for the offended by everything minority though. That's how Bond has always been. Even Craig's Bond, particularly in Casino Royale when he says to Vesper that she wasn't his type as he only went with married women. Or when he doesn't register any emotion seeing the body of the girl he bedded the night before.
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Isn’t he supposed to be a high functioning sociopath?
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I don't think so. Watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service where he falls in love and gets married. After that movie he's lost his true love and finds the chauvinistic approach to women more convenient and suited to his lifestyle I guess. Although he was doing that anyway in the previous Connery movies
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Diana Rigg would have been huge high maintenance...he'd have binned her as Mrs Bond inside 6 months
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Sheriff as the Bond expert here don't you think it's a shame that we never got a proper follow up to OHMSS ? Instead of the terd that was Diamonds are Forever.

posted on 1/10/21

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by FC Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by TBag. (U11806)
posted 22 hours, 49 minutes ago
60s setting would be fine, but if you're supposed to root for Bond surely him being a chauvinist still would just make uncomfortable watch for a lot of people?
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Only for the offended by everything minority though. That's how Bond has always been. Even Craig's Bond, particularly in Casino Royale when he says to Vesper that she wasn't his type as he only went with married women. Or when he doesn't register any emotion seeing the body of the girl he bedded the night before.
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Isn’t he supposed to be a high functioning sociopath?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't think so. Watch On Her Majesty's Secret Service where he falls in love and gets married. After that movie he's lost his true love and finds the chauvinistic approach to women more convenient and suited to his lifestyle I guess. Although he was doing that anyway in the previous Connery movies
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Diana Rigg would have been huge high maintenance...he'd have binned her as Mrs Bond inside 6 months
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Sheriff as the Bond expert here don't you think it's a shame that we never got a proper follow up to OHMSS ? Instead of the terd that was Diamonds are Forever.
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Yeah I guess...Lazenby was ok, but was always a stand in...DAF was ok in parts...Jill St John & Lana Wood as Plenty O Tool come to mind...& Charles Grey as Blofeld was brilliantly camp

posted on 1/10/21

Did you mean in a story line or Lazenby specifically

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 1/10/21

https://play.acast.com/s/the-rest-is-history-podcast/101.jamesbond

Good listen.
Their synopsis is that Bond reflects the behaviours of men in their time, Connery is a hard drinking, openly chauvinistic bottom slapper, Craig knows he's damaged and deals with his toxic masculinity via alcohol, violence and patriotism.

posted on 1/10/21

& Roger Moore just joked through his films...the70's were pretty much a joke time

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 1/10/21

carry on shaken not stirred.

posted on 1/10/21

Shaken or stirred sir...?

"Do I look like I give a damn"

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 1/10/21

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago

https://play.acast.com/s/the-rest-is-history-podcast/101.jamesbond

Good listen.
Their synopsis is that Bond reflects the behaviours of men in their time, Connery is a hard drinking, openly chauvinistic bottom slapper, Craig knows he's damaged and deals with his toxic masculinity via alcohol, violence and patriotism.
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Yep. James Bond is a time capsule, not just the character but the films in general.

Craig's Bond being a modern interpretation of a past story already told couldn't sum up this time period any better. The final No Time To Die trailer coming out a week before Matrix 4's first trailer a nice on the nose example of this

posted on 1/10/21

I don't consider Bond to be a toxic male to be honest, I find the need to shoehorn him into contemporary woke parlance kind of lame and boring. Instead he is simply a flawed character whose fallabilities are outlined in the source material.

posted on 1/10/21

Anyway, saw No Time To Die this morning.

It is going to divide a lot of people I suspect.

posted on 1/10/21

As for Obelix's weird left wing tangent about people being snowflakes for pointing out political agendas, I think he should meet Mr Kettle.

posted on 1/10/21

Judas and the black messiah, watching it on sky now

posted on 1/10/21

comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 51 minutes ago
Judas and the black messiah, watching it on sky now
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Any good?

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 1/10/21

Honestly thought he was talking about sol campbell ffs

posted on 2/10/21

comment by King TUt - I Need a Hiro (U3732)
posted 7 minutes ago
Honestly thought he was talking about sol campbell ffs
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Who’s the black messiah then?

posted on 2/10/21

comment by Ole-dirty-baztard - You want ole in, ole out, in, out, in, out, shake it all about. Do the ole Koke-Penited (U19119)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 51 minutes ago
Judas and the black messiah, watching it on sky now
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Any good?
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Watched half as need to get up in morning, so will watch rest tomorrow. Very good so far. Kind of reminds of me of Blackkklansmen in a way, which is an excellent film

posted on 2/10/21

Sounds promising, BK was good, felt like something was missing, but it was decent. Might give this swatch tomo

posted on 2/10/21

comment by (U22712)
posted 13 hours, 22 minutes ago
Anyway, saw No Time To Die this morning.

It is going to divide a lot of people I suspect.
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Into what...? (avoiding spoilers obvs)

posted on 2/10/21

comment by FC Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by (U22712)
posted 13 hours, 22 minutes ago
Anyway, saw No Time To Die this morning.

It is going to divide a lot of people I suspect.
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Into what...? (avoiding spoilers obvs)
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Into hardcore fans saying its a travesty and not a Bond movie, while others will love how daring it was in its choices. Hard to say more without spoilers.

posted on 2/10/21

comment by (U22712)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by FC Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by (U22712)
posted 13 hours, 22 minutes ago
Anyway, saw No Time To Die this morning.

It is going to divide a lot of people I suspect.
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Into what...? (avoiding spoilers obvs)
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Into hardcore fans saying its a travesty and not a Bond movie, while others will love how daring it was in its choices. Hard to say more without spoilers.
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Fair enough

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