comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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no but Fury can come in way underprepared which I think he did.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ could fight anyone and make a decent pay day. If Wilder ko'd Joshua then I doubt he'd even fight Fury.
AJ is the draw not Wilder. I'd rather see Wilder v Ruiz
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I think he gets about 60m for Wilder.... huge name with a majority split... no other fighter offers him that in the world IMO.
Wilder is the next biggest name in the division outwith Fury and AJ. AJ prob earns more for fighting Wilder right now than Fury due to splits.
if Fury and AJ go 50/50 they prob get about 40m each
If AJ fights Wilder he gets a 70/30 maybe even 80/20 split most likely at least which I think will be more.
Give Wilder 20m for AJ fight and let AJ pocket the rest
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And if Wilder wins then it's the last big fight of his career. Parker is a good boxer but no top 3 fighter should lose to someone like that. Wilder had to win to get the opportunity to fight AJ because without it removes him from being a contender
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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no but Fury can come in way underprepared which I think he did.
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I don't think you can properly prepare for a non boxer with no real style who also has the hardest punch in the world
Fury still won so he prepared enough at least in his mind
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ could fight anyone and make a decent pay day. If Wilder ko'd Joshua then I doubt he'd even fight Fury.
AJ is the draw not Wilder. I'd rather see Wilder v Ruiz
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I think he gets about 60m for Wilder.... huge name with a majority split... no other fighter offers him that in the world IMO.
Wilder is the next biggest name in the division outwith Fury and AJ. AJ prob earns more for fighting Wilder right now than Fury due to splits.
if Fury and AJ go 50/50 they prob get about 40m each
If AJ fights Wilder he gets a 70/30 maybe even 80/20 split most likely at least which I think will be more.
Give Wilder 20m for AJ fight and let AJ pocket the rest
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And if Wilder wins then it's the last big fight of his career. Parker is a good boxer but no top 3 fighter should lose to someone like that. Wilder had to win to get the opportunity to fight AJ because without it removes him from being a contender
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Parker was no 3 ranked HW by WBO ranked 4 by WBA and ranked 5 by Ring Magazine..... Wilder was no 3. it was always gonna be a close fight ! WBO had Parker ranked higher than Wilder.
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury still won so he prepared enough at least in his mind
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I didnt say he didnt prepare enough. no one did.
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ could fight anyone and make a decent pay day. If Wilder ko'd Joshua then I doubt he'd even fight Fury.
AJ is the draw not Wilder. I'd rather see Wilder v Ruiz
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I think he gets about 60m for Wilder.... huge name with a majority split... no other fighter offers him that in the world IMO.
Wilder is the next biggest name in the division outwith Fury and AJ. AJ prob earns more for fighting Wilder right now than Fury due to splits.
if Fury and AJ go 50/50 they prob get about 40m each
If AJ fights Wilder he gets a 70/30 maybe even 80/20 split most likely at least which I think will be more.
Give Wilder 20m for AJ fight and let AJ pocket the rest
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And if Wilder wins then it's the last big fight of his career. Parker is a good boxer but no top 3 fighter should lose to someone like that. Wilder had to win to get the opportunity to fight AJ because without it removes him from being a contender
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Parker was no 3 ranked HW by WBO ranked 4 by WBA and ranked 5 by Ring Magazine..... Wilder was no 3. it was always gonna be a close fight ! WBO had Parker ranked higher than Wilder.
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The point is Fury, Usyk and AJ wouldn't have lost that fight
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
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Most mma fans understood that he had the potential to knock Fury out and the ability to take punches from good HWs.
Ngannou would beat Wilder. I think AJ would be much tougher. Also why should he fight non contenders when he's at the top of his own combat sport in which his only skill is striking
People thought it would be like Mcgregor v Mayweather. Mcgregor doesn't have anywhere near the skills to hang with top contenders. Ngannou hits harder than anyone in the world at the moment
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ could fight anyone and make a decent pay day. If Wilder ko'd Joshua then I doubt he'd even fight Fury.
AJ is the draw not Wilder. I'd rather see Wilder v Ruiz
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I think he gets about 60m for Wilder.... huge name with a majority split... no other fighter offers him that in the world IMO.
Wilder is the next biggest name in the division outwith Fury and AJ. AJ prob earns more for fighting Wilder right now than Fury due to splits.
if Fury and AJ go 50/50 they prob get about 40m each
If AJ fights Wilder he gets a 70/30 maybe even 80/20 split most likely at least which I think will be more.
Give Wilder 20m for AJ fight and let AJ pocket the rest
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And if Wilder wins then it's the last big fight of his career. Parker is a good boxer but no top 3 fighter should lose to someone like that. Wilder had to win to get the opportunity to fight AJ because without it removes him from being a contender
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Parker was no 3 ranked HW by WBO ranked 4 by WBA and ranked 5 by Ring Magazine..... Wilder was no 3. it was always gonna be a close fight ! WBO had Parker ranked higher than Wilder.
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The point is Fury, Usyk and AJ wouldn't have lost that fight
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most likely but I wouldnt rule it out. you said that there is no way that a guy ranked higher in some governing bodies should be beating Wilder. the governing bodies that didnt have Parker ranked higher than Wilder had him at most 2 positions below him!!
And like I said prior to the weekend most would have thought Parker v AJ would be close fight. closer than the first one thats for sure.
it was always gonna be a close fight.
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ngannou hits harder than anyone in the world at the moment
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There is nothing that proves or suggest thats the case especially in boxing.
In boxing he has never knocked a fighter out.
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
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Most mma fans understood that he had the potential to knock Fury out and the ability to take punches from good HWs.
Ngannou would beat Wilder. I think AJ would be much tougher. Also why should he fight non contenders when he's at the top of his own combat sport in which his only skill is striking
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I think we were all aware of Ngannou's power, we just didn't think he had the boxing skills to be able to handle Fury. So as of yet we still don't know how much of what went on in that fight was Ngannou being better than we thought or Fury being worse than we thought. Fury didn't look at his best though and we know he's had an inactive year.
Why should Ngannou get a chance against all the top guys as a boxing novice when there are much higher ranked professional boxers who have been waiting for their chance much longer?
All I'm saying is put him in with guys maybe not ranked as high.
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ngannou hits harder than anyone in the world at the moment
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There is nothing that proves or suggest thats the case especially in boxing.
In boxing he has never knocked a fighter out.
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He has recorded the hardest punch as a record. In bigger gloves the extra wrist support much help the power lost from extra padding.
Fury can obviously take huge punches and recover. I'm not sure many others could. Ngannou has also been fighting HWs with 5oz gloves so can obviously take a punch too
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
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Most mma fans understood that he had the potential to knock Fury out and the ability to take punches from good HWs.
Ngannou would beat Wilder. I think AJ would be much tougher. Also why should he fight non contenders when he's at the top of his own combat sport in which his only skill is striking
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I think we were all aware of Ngannou's power, we just didn't think he had the boxing skills to be able to handle Fury. So as of yet we still don't know how much of what went on in that fight was Ngannou being better than we thought or Fury being worse than we thought. Fury didn't look at his best though and we know he's had an inactive year.
Why should Ngannou get a chance against all the top guys as a boxing novice when there are much higher ranked professional boxers who have been waiting for their chance much longer?
All I'm saying is put him in with guys maybe not ranked as high.
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Because Ngannou has a place at the top of martial arts. He went toe to toe with one of the greatest to ever do it. It was a money fight but the skills, age and reputation allow him to compete with top guys. If you had the ability to knock out anyone in the world why would you fight someone who wasn't top of their game
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posted 20 hours, 6 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
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Most mma fans understood that he had the potential to knock Fury out and the ability to take punches from good HWs.
Ngannou would beat Wilder. I think AJ would be much tougher. Also why should he fight non contenders when he's at the top of his own combat sport in which his only skill is striking
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I think we were all aware of Ngannou's power, we just didn't think he had the boxing skills to be able to handle Fury. So as of yet we still don't know how much of what went on in that fight was Ngannou being better than we thought or Fury being worse than we thought. Fury didn't look at his best though and we know he's had an inactive year.
Why should Ngannou get a chance against all the top guys as a boxing novice when there are much higher ranked professional boxers who have been waiting for their chance much longer?
All I'm saying is put him in with guys maybe not ranked as high.
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Because Ngannou has a place at the top of martial arts. He went toe to toe with one of the greatest to ever do it. It was a money fight but the skills, age and reputation allow him to compete with top guys. If you had the ability to knock out anyone in the world why would you fight someone who wasn't top of their game
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You're in danger of getting carried away here. I mean Fury one of the greatest to ever do it? Let's calm down a bit. If he can beat Usyk it puts him up there. At the moment it's a bit much putting him in that sort of conversation after beating Klitschko and Wilder (who has since been exposed further as a weak champion).
Also almost everyone at HW has the ability to knock out anyone. Ngannou has had just one fight where he performed better than expected against a world champion who may or may not be one of the greats (if he loses to Usyk for example he wouldn't even be in the top 10 for me, or if he avoided him altogether). That should not instantly put him at the door of every top HW out there.
This was a great watch:
https://youtu.be/quKSDqDeUP8?si=eemaKI4WvnSr341K
AJ V Ngannou confirm for March
Great news for Ngannou and a decent stay busy fight for AJ. Both styles mesh well together, so don't expect this to go the distance.
I'm actually more excited for this fight than I have been for AJ's last 2-3.
I would have been more excited if he fought Zhang or Hrgovic rather than some UFC fighter who will not be allowed to win.
AJ will probably end up fighting Hrgovic in 2024 but it's an easy fight for AJ in my opinion. Hrgovic doesn't look the part and I could see AJ taking him out in the first 3.
AJ vs Zhang would be a more interesting fight.
The least interesting fight I wanted to see Joshua take part in. A win doesn't do much for him in all honesty. I'd rather they paired Ngannou with more fringe fighters first to see how good he actually is, instead he's getting 2 of the biggest fights out there, it's crazy.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 26 minutes ago
The least interesting fight I wanted to see Joshua take part in. A win doesn't do much for him in all honesty. I'd rather they paired Ngannou with more fringe fighters first to see how good he actually is, instead he's getting 2 of the biggest fights out there, it's crazy.
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Why would he start fighting fringe level guys when he arguably beat the best HW on the planet?
Strange choice for Ngannou I think. Talk about baptism of fire fighting Fury and AJ in your first two fights in boxing lol.
Then again Ngannou is 37 so he needs these big fights today. Honestly thought AJ would fight Hrgovic but this will be a good fight I'm sure.
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posted on 28/12/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
posted on 28/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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no but Fury can come in way underprepared which I think he did.
posted on 28/12/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ could fight anyone and make a decent pay day. If Wilder ko'd Joshua then I doubt he'd even fight Fury.
AJ is the draw not Wilder. I'd rather see Wilder v Ruiz
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I think he gets about 60m for Wilder.... huge name with a majority split... no other fighter offers him that in the world IMO.
Wilder is the next biggest name in the division outwith Fury and AJ. AJ prob earns more for fighting Wilder right now than Fury due to splits.
if Fury and AJ go 50/50 they prob get about 40m each
If AJ fights Wilder he gets a 70/30 maybe even 80/20 split most likely at least which I think will be more.
Give Wilder 20m for AJ fight and let AJ pocket the rest
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And if Wilder wins then it's the last big fight of his career. Parker is a good boxer but no top 3 fighter should lose to someone like that. Wilder had to win to get the opportunity to fight AJ because without it removes him from being a contender
posted on 28/12/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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no but Fury can come in way underprepared which I think he did.
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I don't think you can properly prepare for a non boxer with no real style who also has the hardest punch in the world
posted on 28/12/23
Fury still won so he prepared enough at least in his mind
posted on 28/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ could fight anyone and make a decent pay day. If Wilder ko'd Joshua then I doubt he'd even fight Fury.
AJ is the draw not Wilder. I'd rather see Wilder v Ruiz
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I think he gets about 60m for Wilder.... huge name with a majority split... no other fighter offers him that in the world IMO.
Wilder is the next biggest name in the division outwith Fury and AJ. AJ prob earns more for fighting Wilder right now than Fury due to splits.
if Fury and AJ go 50/50 they prob get about 40m each
If AJ fights Wilder he gets a 70/30 maybe even 80/20 split most likely at least which I think will be more.
Give Wilder 20m for AJ fight and let AJ pocket the rest
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And if Wilder wins then it's the last big fight of his career. Parker is a good boxer but no top 3 fighter should lose to someone like that. Wilder had to win to get the opportunity to fight AJ because without it removes him from being a contender
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Parker was no 3 ranked HW by WBO ranked 4 by WBA and ranked 5 by Ring Magazine..... Wilder was no 3. it was always gonna be a close fight ! WBO had Parker ranked higher than Wilder.
posted on 28/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fury still won so he prepared enough at least in his mind
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I didnt say he didnt prepare enough. no one did.
posted on 28/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
posted on 28/12/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ could fight anyone and make a decent pay day. If Wilder ko'd Joshua then I doubt he'd even fight Fury.
AJ is the draw not Wilder. I'd rather see Wilder v Ruiz
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I think he gets about 60m for Wilder.... huge name with a majority split... no other fighter offers him that in the world IMO.
Wilder is the next biggest name in the division outwith Fury and AJ. AJ prob earns more for fighting Wilder right now than Fury due to splits.
if Fury and AJ go 50/50 they prob get about 40m each
If AJ fights Wilder he gets a 70/30 maybe even 80/20 split most likely at least which I think will be more.
Give Wilder 20m for AJ fight and let AJ pocket the rest
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And if Wilder wins then it's the last big fight of his career. Parker is a good boxer but no top 3 fighter should lose to someone like that. Wilder had to win to get the opportunity to fight AJ because without it removes him from being a contender
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Parker was no 3 ranked HW by WBO ranked 4 by WBA and ranked 5 by Ring Magazine..... Wilder was no 3. it was always gonna be a close fight ! WBO had Parker ranked higher than Wilder.
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The point is Fury, Usyk and AJ wouldn't have lost that fight
posted on 28/12/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
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Most mma fans understood that he had the potential to knock Fury out and the ability to take punches from good HWs.
Ngannou would beat Wilder. I think AJ would be much tougher. Also why should he fight non contenders when he's at the top of his own combat sport in which his only skill is striking
posted on 28/12/23
People thought it would be like Mcgregor v Mayweather. Mcgregor doesn't have anywhere near the skills to hang with top contenders. Ngannou hits harder than anyone in the world at the moment
posted on 28/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ could fight anyone and make a decent pay day. If Wilder ko'd Joshua then I doubt he'd even fight Fury.
AJ is the draw not Wilder. I'd rather see Wilder v Ruiz
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I think he gets about 60m for Wilder.... huge name with a majority split... no other fighter offers him that in the world IMO.
Wilder is the next biggest name in the division outwith Fury and AJ. AJ prob earns more for fighting Wilder right now than Fury due to splits.
if Fury and AJ go 50/50 they prob get about 40m each
If AJ fights Wilder he gets a 70/30 maybe even 80/20 split most likely at least which I think will be more.
Give Wilder 20m for AJ fight and let AJ pocket the rest
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And if Wilder wins then it's the last big fight of his career. Parker is a good boxer but no top 3 fighter should lose to someone like that. Wilder had to win to get the opportunity to fight AJ because without it removes him from being a contender
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Parker was no 3 ranked HW by WBO ranked 4 by WBA and ranked 5 by Ring Magazine..... Wilder was no 3. it was always gonna be a close fight ! WBO had Parker ranked higher than Wilder.
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The point is Fury, Usyk and AJ wouldn't have lost that fight
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most likely but I wouldnt rule it out. you said that there is no way that a guy ranked higher in some governing bodies should be beating Wilder. the governing bodies that didnt have Parker ranked higher than Wilder had him at most 2 positions below him!!
And like I said prior to the weekend most would have thought Parker v AJ would be close fight. closer than the first one thats for sure.
it was always gonna be a close fight.
posted on 28/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ngannou hits harder than anyone in the world at the moment
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There is nothing that proves or suggest thats the case especially in boxing.
In boxing he has never knocked a fighter out.
posted on 28/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
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comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
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AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
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Most mma fans understood that he had the potential to knock Fury out and the ability to take punches from good HWs.
Ngannou would beat Wilder. I think AJ would be much tougher. Also why should he fight non contenders when he's at the top of his own combat sport in which his only skill is striking
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I think we were all aware of Ngannou's power, we just didn't think he had the boxing skills to be able to handle Fury. So as of yet we still don't know how much of what went on in that fight was Ngannou being better than we thought or Fury being worse than we thought. Fury didn't look at his best though and we know he's had an inactive year.
Why should Ngannou get a chance against all the top guys as a boxing novice when there are much higher ranked professional boxers who have been waiting for their chance much longer?
All I'm saying is put him in with guys maybe not ranked as high.
posted on 28/12/23
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 6 minutes ago
Ngannou hits harder than anyone in the world at the moment
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There is nothing that proves or suggest thats the case especially in boxing.
In boxing he has never knocked a fighter out.
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He has recorded the hardest punch as a record. In bigger gloves the extra wrist support much help the power lost from extra padding.
Fury can obviously take huge punches and recover. I'm not sure many others could. Ngannou has also been fighting HWs with 5oz gloves so can obviously take a punch too
posted on 28/12/23
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
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Most mma fans understood that he had the potential to knock Fury out and the ability to take punches from good HWs.
Ngannou would beat Wilder. I think AJ would be much tougher. Also why should he fight non contenders when he's at the top of his own combat sport in which his only skill is striking
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I think we were all aware of Ngannou's power, we just didn't think he had the boxing skills to be able to handle Fury. So as of yet we still don't know how much of what went on in that fight was Ngannou being better than we thought or Fury being worse than we thought. Fury didn't look at his best though and we know he's had an inactive year.
Why should Ngannou get a chance against all the top guys as a boxing novice when there are much higher ranked professional boxers who have been waiting for their chance much longer?
All I'm saying is put him in with guys maybe not ranked as high.
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Because Ngannou has a place at the top of martial arts. He went toe to toe with one of the greatest to ever do it. It was a money fight but the skills, age and reputation allow him to compete with top guys. If you had the ability to knock out anyone in the world why would you fight someone who wasn't top of their game
posted on 29/12/23
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 25 minutes ago
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 2 minutes ago
AJ v Ngannou makes more sense and doesn't affect fighting Fury
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Ngannou should prove that Fury fight wasn't a fluke first before he gets to fight someone like AJ. I'd rather see AJ fight credible opponents first. Maybe by the end of his career he can fight Ngannou.
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You can't fluke in a fight like that. Ngannou is the only cross over fight that actually had credibility because he left the UFC as champ to fight someone at the top.
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It was a shock outcome. At the moment it's hard to say how much was Ngannou, how much was Fury underperforming or what. Let's just see Ngannou fight someone else on the scene first before pitting him against every top HW in the division.
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Most mma fans understood that he had the potential to knock Fury out and the ability to take punches from good HWs.
Ngannou would beat Wilder. I think AJ would be much tougher. Also why should he fight non contenders when he's at the top of his own combat sport in which his only skill is striking
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I think we were all aware of Ngannou's power, we just didn't think he had the boxing skills to be able to handle Fury. So as of yet we still don't know how much of what went on in that fight was Ngannou being better than we thought or Fury being worse than we thought. Fury didn't look at his best though and we know he's had an inactive year.
Why should Ngannou get a chance against all the top guys as a boxing novice when there are much higher ranked professional boxers who have been waiting for their chance much longer?
All I'm saying is put him in with guys maybe not ranked as high.
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Because Ngannou has a place at the top of martial arts. He went toe to toe with one of the greatest to ever do it. It was a money fight but the skills, age and reputation allow him to compete with top guys. If you had the ability to knock out anyone in the world why would you fight someone who wasn't top of their game
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You're in danger of getting carried away here. I mean Fury one of the greatest to ever do it? Let's calm down a bit. If he can beat Usyk it puts him up there. At the moment it's a bit much putting him in that sort of conversation after beating Klitschko and Wilder (who has since been exposed further as a weak champion).
Also almost everyone at HW has the ability to knock out anyone. Ngannou has had just one fight where he performed better than expected against a world champion who may or may not be one of the greats (if he loses to Usyk for example he wouldn't even be in the top 10 for me, or if he avoided him altogether). That should not instantly put him at the door of every top HW out there.
posted on 5/1/24
This was a great watch:
https://youtu.be/quKSDqDeUP8?si=eemaKI4WvnSr341K
posted on 5/1/24
AJ V Ngannou confirm for March
posted on 5/1/24
Great news for Ngannou and a decent stay busy fight for AJ. Both styles mesh well together, so don't expect this to go the distance.
I'm actually more excited for this fight than I have been for AJ's last 2-3.
posted on 5/1/24
I would have been more excited if he fought Zhang or Hrgovic rather than some UFC fighter who will not be allowed to win.
posted on 5/1/24
AJ will probably end up fighting Hrgovic in 2024 but it's an easy fight for AJ in my opinion. Hrgovic doesn't look the part and I could see AJ taking him out in the first 3.
AJ vs Zhang would be a more interesting fight.
posted on 6/1/24
The least interesting fight I wanted to see Joshua take part in. A win doesn't do much for him in all honesty. I'd rather they paired Ngannou with more fringe fighters first to see how good he actually is, instead he's getting 2 of the biggest fights out there, it's crazy.
posted on 6/1/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 26 minutes ago
The least interesting fight I wanted to see Joshua take part in. A win doesn't do much for him in all honesty. I'd rather they paired Ngannou with more fringe fighters first to see how good he actually is, instead he's getting 2 of the biggest fights out there, it's crazy.
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Why would he start fighting fringe level guys when he arguably beat the best HW on the planet?
posted on 6/1/24
Strange choice for Ngannou I think. Talk about baptism of fire fighting Fury and AJ in your first two fights in boxing lol.
Then again Ngannou is 37 so he needs these big fights today. Honestly thought AJ would fight Hrgovic but this will be a good fight I'm sure.
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