comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 8 hours, 50 minutes ago
If people what an honest conversation then let’s do it. But the motive behind connecting gay rights in Abu Dhabi to today’s statement is pretty clear to see. So for that reason I’m not prepared to engage with someone using something like that as a trivial opportunity to point score on a football forum.
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Points scoring this is the same thread called. The apology thread?
when your club is guilty!
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9 hours, 6 minutes ago
MANCHESTER CITY FC DID NOT DISGUISE EQUITY FUNDING AS SPONSORSHIP CONTRIBUTIONS BUT DID FAIL TO COOPERATE WITH THE UEFA AUTHORITIES
The guilty are the clubs that set up the cartel, City have threatened to go after them in the courts which may see a few of them being wound up, but not in the way their fans are.
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 hours, 26 minutes ago
There’s a couple of key bits to me. The first one is the narrative being set around the evidence being not established. I have a feeling a few will have even more egg on their faces when the CAS details fully come out and it shows that the evidence was so easily refutable it begs the question why Uefa felt it was anywhere near conclusive enough in the first place.
The second bit is around the time barring. I’ve seen a few journalists make snide remarks about the best lawyers or us getting off on a technicality. I have not seen one properly question how on earth Uefa could think they could possibly charge us, breaching their own regulations in doing so. Not only that but also after being pulled up by CAS for trying to do exactly the same already when they overruled them in the PSG case.
That should be the main story with all of this - it’s that incompetent that the real underlying motives of Uefa charging us is what should be being questioned. I have my theories but that’s for another day!
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For your second paragraph, I read on either the beeb or the guardian (can't remember which) that the time-barred became an issue because UEFA interpreted it as 5 years between the alleged offence and charging the offender, and CAS interpreted it as from the offence to the full completion of the case.
This could be completely wrong. It does seem like UEFAs lawyers would be good enough to realise if it was completely time-barred.
Which would be absolutely ridiculous if true, given CAS had already given a ruling on that in the PSG case.
It does raise a lot of questions for Uefa.
Thinking about that though, the bulk of the emails were from the 2013 season anyway so it’s past it regardless. Theres also the issue that the settlement agreement covered that period too anyway as well.
Why the loons from Pool are getting so wound up is beyond me, the little runt Neo etc need to get to a covid party. They won the PL for the first time, deservedly so, revel in that.
Really suck the life out of the site some of them. And we put up with onh for years 😂
I wouldn’t of boxed off half as many jobs while I’ve been on furlough if he was still about!
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 15 minutes ago
I miss him!
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Yes, he was enjoyable in a perverse kind of way. I doubt this current mob have ever been to the ground of the club they purport to support.
Peps full press conference is worth a watch from today.
I filtered about 5 of the worst ones, I can just about abide this site now but the days of reasonable debate are well gone.
Dan Roan, BBC Sports Editor:
"The language that Cas uses is important. Uefa noted that Cas found "insufficient conclusive evidence" to uphold all of its conclusions, not 'no evidence'. And some allegations were dismissed because they were more than five years old. And, because City were found to have failed to co-operate, this falls short of a full exoneration."
Dan thinks you're cheating fckrs that got away with it . Boo the BBC!
Just watched Pep's presser. First, love the way he treats Tabas with complete contempt. Second, get the vibe that he may well stay beyond his current contract (Here's hoping).
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 9 minutes ago
Dan Roan, BBC Sports Editor:
"The language that Cas uses is important. Uefa noted that Cas found "insufficient conclusive evidence" to uphold all of its conclusions, not 'no evidence'. And some allegations were dismissed because they were more than five years old. And, because City were found to have failed to co-operate, this falls short of a full exoneration."
Dan thinks you're cheating fckrs that got away with it. Boo the BBC!
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Well, he was banned from us for a while so that’s not surprising!
Bit odd he says the language CAS uses is important and then goes on to quote Uefas wording that CAS didn’t say at all though...
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 11 minutes ago
Just watched Pep's presser. First, love the way he treats Tabas with complete contempt. Second, get the vibe that he may well stay beyond his current contract (Here's hoping).
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Yep me too.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 day, 2 hours ago
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8518971/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Man-City-lost-appeal-against-European-ban-CRUSHED.html?login¶m_code=AQBeIjzoy5jDBpzwtlzvVFY8sOl4l_wrOBfFtD4xkRxQ0UF-62Y93asDQCHsnVBgJ83UOnqc1KDEPKOnXnR5fazzQ8FuXliUBv0UGUZ5XqfAvQvWEGrE0h0FP7Bm-e0Pbrhs8eH1JPX0zw4VLqMjH9rFJkSvHnem9oQEEPN4h1Rp7B-QQlcl_nc10E27HHvg6gzTXMxatK6Cvy6r7fz1BRDlzsheo2_GThbIj9JRE-rUNhgWysO0A8pVb4a0qpqTGMXF1W34ngz4S4MPW_aDklU8U22rKJBDfVvfj-acm45y1pfMfpF7Mf5gy2LnYpPe7Ntz36YMcSt0UcgZK_h5szDC¶m_state=eyJyZW1lbWJlck1lIjpmYWxzZX0%3D¶m__host=www.dailymail.co.uk¶m_geolocation=gb&base_fe_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2F&validation_fe_uri=%2Fregistration%2Fp%2Fapi%2Ffield%2Fvalidation%2F&check_user_fe_uri=registration%2Fp%2Fapi%2Fuser%2Fuser_check%2F&isMobile=false#readerCommentsCommand-message-field
Brilliant article from Martin Samuel, even gets a subtle dig in at the likes of Dan Roan, David Conn and some of buttkissing media types who had pronounced us guilty before they'd even heard the evidence.
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posted on 13/7/20
comment by Liverpoolwhoelse17 (U16825)
posted 8 hours, 50 minutes ago
If people what an honest conversation then let’s do it. But the motive behind connecting gay rights in Abu Dhabi to today’s statement is pretty clear to see. So for that reason I’m not prepared to engage with someone using something like that as a trivial opportunity to point score on a football forum.
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Points scoring this is the same thread called. The apology thread?
when your club is guilty!
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9 hours, 6 minutes ago
MANCHESTER CITY FC DID NOT DISGUISE EQUITY FUNDING AS SPONSORSHIP CONTRIBUTIONS BUT DID FAIL TO COOPERATE WITH THE UEFA AUTHORITIES
posted on 13/7/20
The guilty are the clubs that set up the cartel, City have threatened to go after them in the courts which may see a few of them being wound up, but not in the way their fans are.
posted on 14/7/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 hours, 26 minutes ago
There’s a couple of key bits to me. The first one is the narrative being set around the evidence being not established. I have a feeling a few will have even more egg on their faces when the CAS details fully come out and it shows that the evidence was so easily refutable it begs the question why Uefa felt it was anywhere near conclusive enough in the first place.
The second bit is around the time barring. I’ve seen a few journalists make snide remarks about the best lawyers or us getting off on a technicality. I have not seen one properly question how on earth Uefa could think they could possibly charge us, breaching their own regulations in doing so. Not only that but also after being pulled up by CAS for trying to do exactly the same already when they overruled them in the PSG case.
That should be the main story with all of this - it’s that incompetent that the real underlying motives of Uefa charging us is what should be being questioned. I have my theories but that’s for another day!
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For your second paragraph, I read on either the beeb or the guardian (can't remember which) that the time-barred became an issue because UEFA interpreted it as 5 years between the alleged offence and charging the offender, and CAS interpreted it as from the offence to the full completion of the case.
This could be completely wrong. It does seem like UEFAs lawyers would be good enough to realise if it was completely time-barred.
posted on 14/7/20
Which would be absolutely ridiculous if true, given CAS had already given a ruling on that in the PSG case.
It does raise a lot of questions for Uefa.
posted on 14/7/20
Thinking about that though, the bulk of the emails were from the 2013 season anyway so it’s past it regardless. Theres also the issue that the settlement agreement covered that period too anyway as well.
posted on 14/7/20
Why the loons from Pool are getting so wound up is beyond me, the little runt Neo etc need to get to a covid party. They won the PL for the first time, deservedly so, revel in that.
posted on 14/7/20
Really suck the life out of the site some of them. And we put up with onh for years 😂
posted on 14/7/20
I miss him!
posted on 14/7/20
I wouldn’t of boxed off half as many jobs while I’ve been on furlough if he was still about!
posted on 14/7/20
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 15 minutes ago
I miss him!
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Yes, he was enjoyable in a perverse kind of way. I doubt this current mob have ever been to the ground of the club they purport to support.
posted on 14/7/20
Peps full press conference is worth a watch from today.
posted on 14/7/20
I filtered about 5 of the worst ones, I can just about abide this site now but the days of reasonable debate are well gone.
posted on 14/7/20
Dan Roan, BBC Sports Editor:
"The language that Cas uses is important. Uefa noted that Cas found "insufficient conclusive evidence" to uphold all of its conclusions, not 'no evidence'. And some allegations were dismissed because they were more than five years old. And, because City were found to have failed to co-operate, this falls short of a full exoneration."
Dan thinks you're cheating fckrs that got away with it . Boo the BBC!
posted on 14/7/20
Just watched Pep's presser. First, love the way he treats Tabas with complete contempt. Second, get the vibe that he may well stay beyond his current contract (Here's hoping).
posted on 15/7/20
comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 9 minutes ago
Dan Roan, BBC Sports Editor:
"The language that Cas uses is important. Uefa noted that Cas found "insufficient conclusive evidence" to uphold all of its conclusions, not 'no evidence'. And some allegations were dismissed because they were more than five years old. And, because City were found to have failed to co-operate, this falls short of a full exoneration."
Dan thinks you're cheating fckrs that got away with it. Boo the BBC!
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Well, he was banned from us for a while so that’s not surprising!
Bit odd he says the language CAS uses is important and then goes on to quote Uefas wording that CAS didn’t say at all though...
posted on 15/7/20
comment by Ashtonianblue (U12469)
posted 11 minutes ago
Just watched Pep's presser. First, love the way he treats Tabas with complete contempt. Second, get the vibe that he may well stay beyond his current contract (Here's hoping).
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Yep me too.
posted on 15/7/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 day, 2 hours ago
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8518971/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Man-City-lost-appeal-against-European-ban-CRUSHED.html?login¶m_code=AQBeIjzoy5jDBpzwtlzvVFY8sOl4l_wrOBfFtD4xkRxQ0UF-62Y93asDQCHsnVBgJ83UOnqc1KDEPKOnXnR5fazzQ8FuXliUBv0UGUZ5XqfAvQvWEGrE0h0FP7Bm-e0Pbrhs8eH1JPX0zw4VLqMjH9rFJkSvHnem9oQEEPN4h1Rp7B-QQlcl_nc10E27HHvg6gzTXMxatK6Cvy6r7fz1BRDlzsheo2_GThbIj9JRE-rUNhgWysO0A8pVb4a0qpqTGMXF1W34ngz4S4MPW_aDklU8U22rKJBDfVvfj-acm45y1pfMfpF7Mf5gy2LnYpPe7Ntz36YMcSt0UcgZK_h5szDC¶m_state=eyJyZW1lbWJlck1lIjpmYWxzZX0%3D¶m__host=www.dailymail.co.uk¶m_geolocation=gb&base_fe_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2F&validation_fe_uri=%2Fregistration%2Fp%2Fapi%2Ffield%2Fvalidation%2F&check_user_fe_uri=registration%2Fp%2Fapi%2Fuser%2Fuser_check%2F&isMobile=false#readerCommentsCommand-message-field
Brilliant article from Martin Samuel, even gets a subtle dig in at the likes of Dan Roan, David Conn and some of buttkissing media types who had pronounced us guilty before they'd even heard the evidence.
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posted on 28/7/20
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posted on 15/8/20
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