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comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 5/9/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about 19 hours ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
and they dont just build a car and let the drivers adjust. To suggest that shows lack of understanding.

Max prefers a pointy front end, a car that will slightly oversteer more, it tends to be quicker but also more difficult to drive that way. Perez prefers a slightly understeer car, he drives a bit safer which tends to lead to him making tyres last really well.

That current red bull is a front end dominant car, that is slightly oversteer based. Why wouldnt you design the car to suit your best driver (and most likely the best on the grid). That would be logical.
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Ok, so you know better than Horner then.

Why would they build a car only one person can drive in a team of two? And if Max walks, they have two cars no one can drive. Yep, logical.


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they haven't built a car for only one person to drive, they have built a car that favours one driver to drive. thats what I said, so thats what I meant.

You plan to get the most out your team and the most out of possibly the best driver.... why to maximise points and to keep that driver sweet. Max is going nowhere that car will continue to be developed with his preference and whoever is no2 needs to accept that, until they get a driver who is similar ability to Max and that might never happen.

I imagine I know better than Horner about somethings in life, and he knows better in other walks of life. What in particular do you suppose I know better than him?
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“You develop the car to be as fast as possible. Sometimes a fast car is also difficult to drive. Historically this has often been the case. Max can quickly adapt to the level of grip. We don’t design the car around a particular driver.”

Horner has clarified that Red Bull does not develop the car to suit Max. Max simply manages to get the most out of the car right away as compared to Checo, or all his team mates. Max was also the better driver in the Toro Rosso, that car was definitely not developed around Max.

Even Hamilton has claimed Mercedes did not listen to him over the development of their underperforming 2023 car.

Why dispute that this is the case and say the opposite is true?

posted on 5/9/23

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comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 5/9/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted about 19 hours ago
comment by Cloggy (U1250)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 4 hours, 10 minutes ago
and they dont just build a car and let the drivers adjust. To suggest that shows lack of understanding.

Max prefers a pointy front end, a car that will slightly oversteer more, it tends to be quicker but also more difficult to drive that way. Perez prefers a slightly understeer car, he drives a bit safer which tends to lead to him making tyres last really well.

That current red bull is a front end dominant car, that is slightly oversteer based. Why wouldnt you design the car to suit your best driver (and most likely the best on the grid). That would be logical.
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Ok, so you know better than Horner then.

Why would they build a car only one person can drive in a team of two? And if Max walks, they have two cars no one can drive. Yep, logical.


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they haven't built a car for only one person to drive, they have built a car that favours one driver to drive. thats what I said, so thats what I meant.

You plan to get the most out your team and the most out of possibly the best driver.... why to maximise points and to keep that driver sweet. Max is going nowhere that car will continue to be developed with his preference and whoever is no2 needs to accept that, until they get a driver who is similar ability to Max and that might never happen.

I imagine I know better than Horner about somethings in life, and he knows better in other walks of life. What in particular do you suppose I know better than him?
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“You develop the car to be as fast as possible. Sometimes a fast car is also difficult to drive. Historically this has often been the case. Max can quickly adapt to the level of grip. We don’t design the car around a particular driver.”

Horner has clarified that Red Bull does not develop the car to suit Max. Max simply manages to get the most out of the car right away as compared to Checo, or all his team mates. Max was also the better driver in the Toro Rosso, that car was definitely not developed around Max.

Even Hamilton has claimed Mercedes did not listen to him over the development of their underperforming 2023 car.

Why dispute that this is the case and say the opposite is true?
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Horner also said that when Vettel and Webber were employed that there is no no 1 and no2 ..... They will feed whatever narrative they want to, in order to mkae their job easier or to benefit them.

If you cant see this then your lost here !!

I didnt say the torros rosso was developed around Max everyone knows that was a pre development team for Red Bull at the time?!

But Im arguing with a bonafide fanboy of Max. There is no reasoning with you. Is Max the best on grid probably. It would be insane If Red Bull didnt have him at the forefront of designing the car!

If you cant see this then you must be dumb as hell.

Are all Max's die hard fans as retarted as this ?

So from a Drivers persepctive you think Max beating his no2 driver in Perez 10 times is more impressive than Rosbergs 7 times against multiple world champion and legend Hamilton. Thats fine, I think its damn dumb but we are all different. And your judgement is clouded in bias.
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Ill just leave that here, no need for all the insults. But this is a recurring theme with you, you did the same on the Amiga thread.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 14/9/23

Here we go again.

I think we will see a different winner this weekend. If Max wins Singapore, I think Red Bull will get a full sweep in 2023.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 14/9/23

Friday practice is expected to be dry. The chance of showers is small, resting about 20% and the temperature will rise to about 33 degrees Celsius at the hottest time of the day.

However, over the weekend, the threat of rain will increase - on Saturday, the day of qualifying, there will be a 40% chance of a shower at the track.

On Sunday, more showers will develop in the region and the chance of rainfall is over 60%.

However, most of the showers will fall in the afternoon and as both qualifying and the race do not start until the evening hours, it does not appear as though the track will be heavily saturated for the sessions.

On both Saturday and Sunday, temperatures will rise to 32 or 33 degrees Celsius. Once the race commences, the sun will have already set, but the temperature will not cease much.

At the start of the Grand Prix, which is scheduled for 8 PM local time, it is expected to be 29 or 30 degrees Celsius.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 15/9/23

Looks like Max will have some work cut out for him

posted on 15/9/23

The track will minimise RB's pace advantage, so it's probably Ferrari's best chance of a win this year

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 15/9/23

Looks like you're going to be right

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 16/9/23

Stroll heavy crash in Q1. Red Bull not too far off the pace.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 16/9/23

Red Bull out with both cars

posted on 17/9/23

Let's see how Ferrari will contrive to screw this golden opportunity up.

posted on 17/9/23

Double podium should be the minimum, if everything goes right on strategy, pits, tyres.

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 17/9/23

Here we go!

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 17/9/23

comment by Chelseamf™®© (U1677)
posted 20 minutes ago
Double podium should be the minimum, if everything goes right on strategy, pits, tyres.
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I think there will be a few upsets and surprises

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 17/9/23

2 down 9 to go

posted on 17/9/23

And there it is, Ferrari destroys Charl' chance of a podium. Classic

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 17/9/23

That yellow flag facked up red bulls chances

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 17/9/23

Game over. Hope Russell catches sainz

comment by Cloggy (U1250)

posted on 17/9/23

This is going to be a tasty final 10 laps

posted on 17/9/23

I think Russell is winning this.

posted on 17/9/23

Great tactical driving from Sainz what a race!

posted on 17/9/23

Crashed out!

posted on 17/9/23

Russell absolutely bottled that. If him and ham were swapped round then Lewis might have actually done it

posted on 17/9/23

Yep, Lewis had the pace on all of them. Almost half a tenth on George at the end.

posted on 17/9/23

*Almost 5-tenths on George at the end. Wins the race, if the team had instructed George to let Lewis through

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