posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
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comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
It's not impossible for any club to win the league, its just highly improbable that most will and this has always been the case, except for in very rare occasions, like Leicester or Forest.
In my life time as a football fan (more than 40 years) its been Liverpool & Everton, Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and now Liverpool.
Leicester and Blackburn are the outliers. One spent a lot the other genuine fluke...but all the other winners are the traditional big clubs...and it has ever been thus!
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City
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Through massive unearned spending which has now been regulated against because of the distortion it brings so so many aspects of football.
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What distortion has it brought apart from City themselves winning more that football hasn’t already brought on itself? It didn’t lead to any difference in the rate of inflation of transfer or wage fees. You need a lot more than one club to do that.
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they have only bent the rules to their advantage, no distortion 🤣
Forest and Everton are formally charged and docked points. City are charged for 115 breaches, yet no points deducted yet. It's enough to force City into non league football.
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That has nothing to do with what I put but ok
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
I get why it's harsh on fans to suffer when their clubs owners are irresponsible but this idea will be the death of the PL being the best league.
Why not just keep the current system and just continue to punish irresponsible owners?
You don't get the wealth to buy a Pl club without the knowledge of how to read a balance sheet. Clubs having point deductions is due to bad decisions and I refuse to accept they didn't knowingly take a risk, knowing how ffp works, and they could get bent over if their gamble didn't come off.
Any restrictions to wages/spending will cripple the league overnight. As others have said, other leagues and clubs would just spend and pay wages that PL clubs wouldn't.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
It's not impossible for any club to win the league, its just highly improbable that most will and this has always been the case, except for in very rare occasions, like Leicester or Forest.
In my life time as a football fan (more than 40 years) its been Liverpool & Everton, Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and now Liverpool.
Leicester and Blackburn are the outliers. One spent a lot the other genuine fluke...but all the other winners are the traditional big clubs...and it has ever been thus!
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City
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Through massive unearned spending which has now been regulated against because of the distortion it brings so so many aspects of football.
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What distortion has it brought apart from City themselves winning more that football hasn’t already brought on itself? It didn’t lead to any difference in the rate of inflation of transfer or wage fees. You need a lot more than one club to do that.
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they have only bent the rules to their advantage, no distortion 🤣
Forest and Everton are formally charged and docked points. City are charged for 115 breaches, yet no points deducted yet. It's enough to force City into non league football.
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That has nothing to do with what I put but ok
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I know, I was just putting it out there. 😁
And you're one of the better posters, million times better than Boris.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
If you don't think domination made possible by massive, unprecedent levels of investment from the unlimited pockets of a nation is a distortion, then I think you have your head in the sand
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
If you don't think domination made possible by massive, unprecedent levels of investment from the unlimited pockets of a nation is a distortion, then I think you have your head in the sand
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I said it was a distortion for City themselves. Aside from that though how has it distorted anything more than football did already? That it took the level of investment it did is telling on that in the first place.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 seconds ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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That’s more down to all of those clubs being badly mismanaged at some point during that timescale though, United in particular. There’s no reason you couldn’t have achieved the same.
We won’t qualify every year when Pep and Begiristain go. They’ve been the differentiator.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
A wage cap is fine for domestic competition but for teams competing in European competition the prospects of winning against teams from leagues without restrictions will be considerably reduced.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by bomdia (U13941)
posted 1 minute ago
A wage cap is fine for domestic competition but for teams competing in European competition the prospects of winning against teams from leagues without restrictions will be considerably reduced.
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Yer
Becuse Man Cs* need too spend at leased 1,000 time moore than eg Copenhagen if they r 2 halve a level playin fealed n halve a chance too beat em
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by bomdia (U13941)
posted 1 minute ago
A wage cap is fine for domestic competition but for teams competing in European competition the prospects of winning against teams from leagues without restrictions will be considerably reduced.
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Yer
Becuse Man Cs* need too spend at leased 1,000 time moore than eg Copenhagen if they r 2 halve a level playin fealed n halve a chance too beat em
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Are you Martha from “Little Reindeer”?
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 seconds ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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That’s more down to all of those clubs being badly mismanaged at some point during that timescale though, United in particular. There’s no reason you couldn’t have achieved the same.
We won’t qualify every year when Pep and Begiristain go. They’ve been the differentiator.
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I mean there's an argument to say City have been ran badly too as they have had to cheat the books in order to succeed.
You've been convinced it's all been down to sound decisions and of course there has been a lot of good decisions made. But it's all been made possible by
cheating on a scale we've never seen before.
It's an absolute mess this league right now and it's all really because of your club let's be honest. The landscape changed and not for the better unless you happen to be a City fan.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 seconds ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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That’s more down to all of those clubs being badly mismanaged at some point during that timescale though, United in particular. There’s no reason you couldn’t have achieved the same.
We won’t qualify every year when Pep and Begiristain go. They’ve been the differentiator.
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I mean there's an argument to say City have been ran badly too as they have had to cheat the books in order to succeed.
You've been convinced it's all been down to sound decisions and of course there has been a lot of good decisions made. But it's all been made possible by
cheating on a scale we've never seen before.
It's an absolute mess this league right now and it's all really because of your club let's be honest. The landscape changed and not for the better unless you happen to be a City fan.
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That’s not an argument yet though, if we’re found guilty then you can say that.
Aside from that though, the league is generating more income than it ever has done, the only reason you think it’s in a mess is because your own club has been a mess for ten years, that’s it.
Personally I’d argue the league has been in a mess ever since the PL was set up but that’s because I’d happily advocate for any change that leads to more competitiveness and there hasn’t been one for the last forty years until today. You just advocate for whatever situation would suit your own club the best as you didn’t complain when your club was one of the chief advocates of those changes.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
Where would the additional money left over go? If it goes to grassroots football, down the league pyramid, lower ticket and tv subscription prices then great.
If it means bigger profits for billionaires at the expense of players and managers then it's the wrong move imo.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 22 minutes ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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City have had 3 managers during that timescale, remind us how many managerial changes there has been at the other clubs you’ve mentioned.
You have to be at a new level of bitterness to think that Moyes, Hodgson, Potter etc would have lead their teams to glory if City hadn’t been in in the equation
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
If the spending cap is - for arguments sake - 5x the TV revenue of the bottom club, does that mean that the team who finished 17th can spend 5x that too? Surely that will far eclipse their total revenue for that season?
While I was all for owners of smaller clubs being allowed to invest as much of their own money as they want, isn't this a reckless idea? Or will the multiple be staggered depending where you finish in the league the previous season?
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 22 minutes ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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City have had 3 managers during that timescale, remind us how many managerial changes there has been at the other clubs you’ve mentioned.
You have to be at a new level of bitterness to think that Moyes, Hodgson, Potter etc would have lead their teams to glory if City hadn’t been in in the equation
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And you have to be the biggest moron on the planet if you don't think oil money has completely turned football on its head.
You and PSG had just 3 league titles between you in your entire history before the takeovers. It's now over 20.
Take that cash away and you wouldn't have even finished in the CL places once. That's how Tinpot your club is. 😂
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
"It's an absolute mess this league right now and it's all really because of your club let's be honest. The landscape changed and not for the better unless you happen to be a City fan."
To be fair the state of the league isn't all on City. It started when Abramovich took over Chelsea. Transfer fees inflated when Chelsea acted like a newly minted lottery winner in the market. It calmed down a bit then inflated again with City's takeover.
Throw in the extra money from huge TV deals both domestic and international we now have the ridiculous situation the league is in.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
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You have cooked the books, that's one thing, but have recruited phenomenally well in practically every department, have to handed to you. That's no mean feat.
Contrast that with our incompetent ownership. If they had the same level of competence as City's ownership Utd would have been competitive in every department, possibly be tussling for the title now.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
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You have cooked the books, that's one thing, but have recruited phenomenally well in practically every department, have to handed to you. That's no mean feat.
Contrast that with our incompetent ownership. If they had the same level of competence as City's ownership Utd would have been competitive in every department, possibly be tussling for the title now.
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I'm holding judgement until the case is resolved, but let's just say we did cook the books, how is it Manchester City's fault that your £1bn squad conceded 16 shots and 52% possession against Burnley, who are 19th in the league?
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by mancWoohoo - Maximus Mardius Cobonius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
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You have cooked the books, that's one thing, but have recruited phenomenally well in practically every department, have to handed to you. That's no mean feat.
Contrast that with our incompetent ownership. If they had the same level of competence as City's ownership Utd would have been competitive in every department, possibly be tussling for the title now.
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I'm holding judgement until the case is resolved, but let's just say we did cook the books, how is it Manchester City's fault that your £1bn squad conceded 16 shots and 52% possession against Burnley, who are 19th in the league?
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What?!
Read what I have said. Where am I blaming City?
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo - Maximus Mardius Cobonius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
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You have cooked the books, that's one thing, but have recruited phenomenally well in practically every department, have to handed to you. That's no mean feat.
Contrast that with our incompetent ownership. If they had the same level of competence as City's ownership Utd would have been competitive in every department, possibly be tussling for the title now.
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I'm holding judgement until the case is resolved, but let's just say we did cook the books, how is it Manchester City's fault that your £1bn squad conceded 16 shots and 52% possession against Burnley, who are 19th in the league?
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What?!
Read what I have said. Where am I blaming City?
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That was meant for SE85, soz.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
United have cooked the books
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 12 minutes ago
City have cooked the books
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Corrected a key typo, Boris.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 12 minutes ago
City have cooked the books
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Corrected a key typo, Boris.
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You obviously haven’t
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posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
It's not impossible for any club to win the league, its just highly improbable that most will and this has always been the case, except for in very rare occasions, like Leicester or Forest.
In my life time as a football fan (more than 40 years) its been Liverpool & Everton, Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and now Liverpool.
Leicester and Blackburn are the outliers. One spent a lot the other genuine fluke...but all the other winners are the traditional big clubs...and it has ever been thus!
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City
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Through massive unearned spending which has now been regulated against because of the distortion it brings so so many aspects of football.
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What distortion has it brought apart from City themselves winning more that football hasn’t already brought on itself? It didn’t lead to any difference in the rate of inflation of transfer or wage fees. You need a lot more than one club to do that.
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they have only bent the rules to their advantage, no distortion 🤣
Forest and Everton are formally charged and docked points. City are charged for 115 breaches, yet no points deducted yet. It's enough to force City into non league football.
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That has nothing to do with what I put but ok
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
I get why it's harsh on fans to suffer when their clubs owners are irresponsible but this idea will be the death of the PL being the best league.
Why not just keep the current system and just continue to punish irresponsible owners?
You don't get the wealth to buy a Pl club without the knowledge of how to read a balance sheet. Clubs having point deductions is due to bad decisions and I refuse to accept they didn't knowingly take a risk, knowing how ffp works, and they could get bent over if their gamble didn't come off.
Any restrictions to wages/spending will cripple the league overnight. As others have said, other leagues and clubs would just spend and pay wages that PL clubs wouldn't.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Mainoo Man (U23147)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
It's not impossible for any club to win the league, its just highly improbable that most will and this has always been the case, except for in very rare occasions, like Leicester or Forest.
In my life time as a football fan (more than 40 years) its been Liverpool & Everton, Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and now Liverpool.
Leicester and Blackburn are the outliers. One spent a lot the other genuine fluke...but all the other winners are the traditional big clubs...and it has ever been thus!
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City
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Through massive unearned spending which has now been regulated against because of the distortion it brings so so many aspects of football.
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What distortion has it brought apart from City themselves winning more that football hasn’t already brought on itself? It didn’t lead to any difference in the rate of inflation of transfer or wage fees. You need a lot more than one club to do that.
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they have only bent the rules to their advantage, no distortion 🤣
Forest and Everton are formally charged and docked points. City are charged for 115 breaches, yet no points deducted yet. It's enough to force City into non league football.
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That has nothing to do with what I put but ok
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I know, I was just putting it out there. 😁
And you're one of the better posters, million times better than Boris.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
If you don't think domination made possible by massive, unprecedent levels of investment from the unlimited pockets of a nation is a distortion, then I think you have your head in the sand
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
If you don't think domination made possible by massive, unprecedent levels of investment from the unlimited pockets of a nation is a distortion, then I think you have your head in the sand
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I said it was a distortion for City themselves. Aside from that though how has it distorted anything more than football did already? That it took the level of investment it did is telling on that in the first place.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 seconds ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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That’s more down to all of those clubs being badly mismanaged at some point during that timescale though, United in particular. There’s no reason you couldn’t have achieved the same.
We won’t qualify every year when Pep and Begiristain go. They’ve been the differentiator.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
A wage cap is fine for domestic competition but for teams competing in European competition the prospects of winning against teams from leagues without restrictions will be considerably reduced.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by bomdia (U13941)
posted 1 minute ago
A wage cap is fine for domestic competition but for teams competing in European competition the prospects of winning against teams from leagues without restrictions will be considerably reduced.
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Yer
Becuse Man Cs* need too spend at leased 1,000 time moore than eg Copenhagen if they r 2 halve a level playin fealed n halve a chance too beat em
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by bomdia (U13941)
posted 1 minute ago
A wage cap is fine for domestic competition but for teams competing in European competition the prospects of winning against teams from leagues without restrictions will be considerably reduced.
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Yer
Becuse Man Cs* need too spend at leased 1,000 time moore than eg Copenhagen if they r 2 halve a level playin fealed n halve a chance too beat em
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Are you Martha from “Little Reindeer”?
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 seconds ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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That’s more down to all of those clubs being badly mismanaged at some point during that timescale though, United in particular. There’s no reason you couldn’t have achieved the same.
We won’t qualify every year when Pep and Begiristain go. They’ve been the differentiator.
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I mean there's an argument to say City have been ran badly too as they have had to cheat the books in order to succeed.
You've been convinced it's all been down to sound decisions and of course there has been a lot of good decisions made. But it's all been made possible by
cheating on a scale we've never seen before.
It's an absolute mess this league right now and it's all really because of your club let's be honest. The landscape changed and not for the better unless you happen to be a City fan.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 seconds ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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That’s more down to all of those clubs being badly mismanaged at some point during that timescale though, United in particular. There’s no reason you couldn’t have achieved the same.
We won’t qualify every year when Pep and Begiristain go. They’ve been the differentiator.
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I mean there's an argument to say City have been ran badly too as they have had to cheat the books in order to succeed.
You've been convinced it's all been down to sound decisions and of course there has been a lot of good decisions made. But it's all been made possible by
cheating on a scale we've never seen before.
It's an absolute mess this league right now and it's all really because of your club let's be honest. The landscape changed and not for the better unless you happen to be a City fan.
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That’s not an argument yet though, if we’re found guilty then you can say that.
Aside from that though, the league is generating more income than it ever has done, the only reason you think it’s in a mess is because your own club has been a mess for ten years, that’s it.
Personally I’d argue the league has been in a mess ever since the PL was set up but that’s because I’d happily advocate for any change that leads to more competitiveness and there hasn’t been one for the last forty years until today. You just advocate for whatever situation would suit your own club the best as you didn’t complain when your club was one of the chief advocates of those changes.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
Where would the additional money left over go? If it goes to grassroots football, down the league pyramid, lower ticket and tv subscription prices then great.
If it means bigger profits for billionaires at the expense of players and managers then it's the wrong move imo.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 22 minutes ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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City have had 3 managers during that timescale, remind us how many managerial changes there has been at the other clubs you’ve mentioned.
You have to be at a new level of bitterness to think that Moyes, Hodgson, Potter etc would have lead their teams to glory if City hadn’t been in in the equation
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
If the spending cap is - for arguments sake - 5x the TV revenue of the bottom club, does that mean that the team who finished 17th can spend 5x that too? Surely that will far eclipse their total revenue for that season?
While I was all for owners of smaller clubs being allowed to invest as much of their own money as they want, isn't this a reckless idea? Or will the multiple be staggered depending where you finish in the league the previous season?
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 22 minutes ago
Apparently since City first qualified for the champions League in 2011 they have been in it every single season.
In that same time frame:
United have missed out 5 times (will be 6 soon)
Liverpool have missed out 5 times.
Arsenal have missed out 7 times
Chelsea 5 times
Just shows the ridiculous impact these state ownership models have had on the game. t's even worse in France too with PSG.
Should never have been allowed to begin with and we wouldn't have had all the mess that's followed.
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City have had 3 managers during that timescale, remind us how many managerial changes there has been at the other clubs you’ve mentioned.
You have to be at a new level of bitterness to think that Moyes, Hodgson, Potter etc would have lead their teams to glory if City hadn’t been in in the equation
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And you have to be the biggest moron on the planet if you don't think oil money has completely turned football on its head.
You and PSG had just 3 league titles between you in your entire history before the takeovers. It's now over 20.
Take that cash away and you wouldn't have even finished in the CL places once. That's how Tinpot your club is. 😂
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
"It's an absolute mess this league right now and it's all really because of your club let's be honest. The landscape changed and not for the better unless you happen to be a City fan."
To be fair the state of the league isn't all on City. It started when Abramovich took over Chelsea. Transfer fees inflated when Chelsea acted like a newly minted lottery winner in the market. It calmed down a bit then inflated again with City's takeover.
Throw in the extra money from huge TV deals both domestic and international we now have the ridiculous situation the league is in.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
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You have cooked the books, that's one thing, but have recruited phenomenally well in practically every department, have to handed to you. That's no mean feat.
Contrast that with our incompetent ownership. If they had the same level of competence as City's ownership Utd would have been competitive in every department, possibly be tussling for the title now.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
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You have cooked the books, that's one thing, but have recruited phenomenally well in practically every department, have to handed to you. That's no mean feat.
Contrast that with our incompetent ownership. If they had the same level of competence as City's ownership Utd would have been competitive in every department, possibly be tussling for the title now.
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I'm holding judgement until the case is resolved, but let's just say we did cook the books, how is it Manchester City's fault that your £1bn squad conceded 16 shots and 52% possession against Burnley, who are 19th in the league?
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by mancWoohoo - Maximus Mardius Cobonius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
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You have cooked the books, that's one thing, but have recruited phenomenally well in practically every department, have to handed to you. That's no mean feat.
Contrast that with our incompetent ownership. If they had the same level of competence as City's ownership Utd would have been competitive in every department, possibly be tussling for the title now.
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I'm holding judgement until the case is resolved, but let's just say we did cook the books, how is it Manchester City's fault that your £1bn squad conceded 16 shots and 52% possession against Burnley, who are 19th in the league?
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What?!
Read what I have said. Where am I blaming City?
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by mancWoohoo - Maximus Mardius Cobonius (U10676)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 23 minutes ago
Yep, Sheikh Mansour is entirely to blame for the managers and players you’ve recruited over the last 15 years. 😹
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You have cooked the books, that's one thing, but have recruited phenomenally well in practically every department, have to handed to you. That's no mean feat.
Contrast that with our incompetent ownership. If they had the same level of competence as City's ownership Utd would have been competitive in every department, possibly be tussling for the title now.
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I'm holding judgement until the case is resolved, but let's just say we did cook the books, how is it Manchester City's fault that your £1bn squad conceded 16 shots and 52% possession against Burnley, who are 19th in the league?
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What?!
Read what I have said. Where am I blaming City?
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That was meant for SE85, soz.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
United have cooked the books
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 12 minutes ago
City have cooked the books
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Corrected a key typo, Boris.
posted 2 weeks, 2 days ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 12 minutes ago
City have cooked the books
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Corrected a key typo, Boris.
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You obviously haven’t
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