posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
As for election choices, I vote pragmatically. If there's a chance of a Tory getting elected, I vote for the party best positioned to beat them. If it's a safe seat, I'll vote for the party I agree with most, which is likely to be the Greens at the moment.
In the meantime, I advocate putting pressure on Labour - the next party of government - to respect its membership's stated view and adopt a proportional electoral system. I'm fed up of Labour candidates telling us "you have to vote for me because in the first past the post system it's a binary choice" while having no interest in reforming that system.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’d genuinely like to hear from a Tory voter about why they would vote that way because I find it insane.
I’m yet to see anything other than ‘but Labour’ tbh
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The two threats to progressive government are 1) the ~25% committed right-wing base (which will follow the Tory/Reform party into full-on authoritarianism, judging by international as well as British trends), and 2) "they're all the same" cynicism. It's quite possible that enough people fall into the second camp that the first regain power before long.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Labour voter here and have been all my life thus far. However I'm not naive to think they are perfect solution. The most definitely aren't but still preferable to the Tories.
I have had to listen to over a decade of excuses from this ridiculous government about how Labour created the financial crisis the Tories inherited. No guys.....that would be the bankers and I'd hazard a guess that 99%
are Tories themselves too. 😂
The problem with UK politics is people make their mind up on debates before they hear all the facts just because of the party they tend to vote for.
I see myself as a mainly liberal thinking person but even I am slightly conservative on a few issues. There's no one single party that ticks all boxes and never will be.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 seconds ago
As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
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Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 seconds ago
As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
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Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
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Yep, spot on, but I’d add pretty much anything that Chris Grayling worked on.
I read a report that said he’d single handed pay cost the country £2bn simply through incompetence.
But brown people in boats eh.
Like I said, I’d be interested to hear from any Tory as to why they would even consider voting for them.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’d genuinely like to hear from a Tory voter about why they would vote that way because I find it insane.
I’m yet to see anything other than ‘but Labour’ tbh
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The two threats to progressive government are 1) the ~25% committed right-wing base (which will follow the Tory/Reform party into full-on authoritarianism, judging by international as well as British trends), and 2) "they're all the same" cynicism. It's quite possible that enough people fall into the second camp that the first regain power before long.
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The biggest problem I have with the 'they're all the same' narrative is Labour are seemingly judged by a higher standard than the Tories, with numerous scandals, controversies, lies etc obsfucated or played down.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 19 minutes ago
I'm more Plaid Cymru than anything else but, because it's a UK election and Labour have more chance of ousting the Tories here than Plaid, I shall give me vote to Labour. I really do think we'd be better off independent though but a story for another day that is.
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I think Plaid will win the Ynys Môn constituency this year, first time since 1997. It could be a decent showing from them this election.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 14 minutes ago
The Tories have been useless, but I like what they are planning with sending illegal immigrants to Rwanda and the welfare state / getting the bone idle into work etc
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You actually like a scheme that is going to cost £500m to relocate all of 300 people?
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The appeal to the nativist section of the electorate is never about addressing and solving problems. It focuses on symbolic acts, and increasingly on performative cruelty. Immigration policy over the last decade has been headlined by more and more extreme ideas from brainstorming sessions on how to be mean to foreigners.
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Seems Ireland are up in arms now that migrants could decide to land on their shores instead of the UK now.
The whole thing is fecked, I saw an article today from a father who lost his daughter in a crossing. They've been in Europe for over 15 years, in Sweden, Belgium, France and their only option was to cross to the UK or be deported to Iraq.....make it make sense for me please.
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Although I agree with the need to sort out our boarders, but equally our government have been the cause to a vast majority of refugees across the world, due to our interferences in Iraq, Afghanistan, many African countries, Israel and many other states in the Middle East.
Also a lot of our population just don't like particular careers anymore like nursing, delivery drivers, convenience stores, doctors, taxi drivers and many others, so we've had to import people from other countries and others have just come independently to work in those roles.
We can't make the same mistakes like say Idi Armin made when he exiled the Indians...
It's tough times ahead and it's gonna be huge work to turn round this country's direction, which will include other issues like Social media, the NHS, benefits, Cannabis legislation and many more.
For me I feel that Tories have led our country down this path so they need to go for the foreseeable future, labour I may very reluctantly vote just so those guys arent in the picture, lib Dems need to chance imo, reform are nearly all ex Tories of which concerns me and the restt dont stand a chance.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
"I have had to listen to over a decade of excuses from this ridiculous government about how Labour created the financial crisis the Tories inherited. No guys.....that would be the bankers and I'd hazard a guess that 99%
are Tories themselves too. 😂"
Where was Rishi Sunak employed in 2008? I know he came from Goldman Sachs into politics.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by BraveheartTyke (U6173)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 19 minutes ago
I'm more Plaid Cymru than anything else but, because it's a UK election and Labour have more chance of ousting the Tories here than Plaid, I shall give me vote to Labour. I really do think we'd be better off independent though but a story for another day that is.
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I think Plaid will win the Ynys Môn constituency this year, first time since 1997. It could be a decent showing from them this election.
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They could well do. If I lived there I'd be voting for them. Where I am in Conwy County is Tory though with the best chance of removing them the Labour candidate.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by BraveheartTyke (U6173)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 19 minutes ago
I'm more Plaid Cymru than anything else but, because it's a UK election and Labour have more chance of ousting the Tories here than Plaid, I shall give me vote to Labour. I really do think we'd be better off independent though but a story for another day that is.
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I think Plaid will win the Ynys Môn constituency this year, first time since 1997. It could be a decent showing from them this election.
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They could well do. If I lived there I'd be voting for them. Where I am in Conwy County is Tory though with the best chance of removing them the Labour candidate.
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Yeah if you want the Tories out that would be your best bet in Aberconwy. Plaid's vote seems to have completely collapsed there since they abolished the old seat for the 2010 election.
It is a classic marginal seat, so could be an indicator how the night will go on a wider scale.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
While out of protest I'd consider voting neither Lab or Con, one of them is so bad I don't want to give Con a sniff, so I'm going to vote Labour
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by House (U17162)
posted 8 minutes ago
While out of protest I'd consider voting neither Lab or Con, one of them is so bad I don't want to give Con a sniff, so I'm going to vote Labour
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That's kinda where I am, as I haven't voted labour since 2005, however the Tories are so bad it's comedic, so will be voting labour
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 seconds ago
As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
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Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
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Yep, spot on, but I’d add pretty much anything that Chris Grayling worked on.
I read a report that said he’d single handed pay cost the country £2bn simply through incompetence.
But brown people in boats eh.
Like I said, I’d be interested to hear from any Tory as to why they would even consider voting for them.
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I don’t know a single Tory voter who has any intention of voting them in now, and I know many. It’ll be an absolute landslide.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 seconds ago
As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
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Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
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Yep, spot on, but I’d add pretty much anything that Chris Grayling worked on.
I read a report that said he’d single handed pay cost the country £2bn simply through incompetence.
But brown people in boats eh.
Like I said, I’d be interested to hear from any Tory as to why they would even consider voting for them.
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I don’t know a single Tory voter who has any intention of voting them in now, and I know many. It’ll be an absolute landslide.
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Same tbf
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by 1manontherun 7-0 (U4291)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Never Mind the Defending: Here’s Jürgen Klopp’s Liverpool (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 seconds ago
As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
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Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
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Yep, spot on, but I’d add pretty much anything that Chris Grayling worked on.
I read a report that said he’d single handed pay cost the country £2bn simply through incompetence.
But brown people in boats eh.
Like I said, I’d be interested to hear from any Tory as to why they would even consider voting for them.
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I don’t know a single Tory voter who has any intention of voting them in now, and I know many. It’ll be an absolute landslide.
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Same tbf
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Yeah it will be a landslide that makes 1997 look like a tight contest. I wouldn’t say Starmer has done anything worthy of winning an election. He’s like that Aussie ice skater who won Olympic gold because everyone else crashed into each other
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
I’m sure Labour will win but not because many voting for them feel like they offer what they want, more they just want the Tories out. Saying that from people I speak to (London) many will vote for the Greens or Independant because they’re pretty sure the Tories won’t win and they also don’t relate to the Labour Party these days.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
the JA606 Opinion Poll is the most accurate in the country
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Only have Mayor elections tomorrow - tempted to vote for the maverick standing for Yorkshire Independence and free chickens
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
I’ll be voting Kahn for London Mayor but then Green for the GE.
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you are going to vote for the worst mayor london has ever had...
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
No option for the Monster Raving Loony party? Or do they masquerade as the tories?
Our shower over here are as bad and will be most likely a Sinn Fein led government by this time next year
Should be fun
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
The tories are awful but so are the alternatives. Labour will win a majority but they haven't won the election. The tories lost it.
I do think some people who say they arent voting tory, will do so when at the ballot box. Some change their mind last minute because they dont vote any other way and dont think their change of vote will make a difference or they dont want Labour.
So i think the majority for labour wont be as big as people predict and the tories wont lose as many seats as predicted. However, it will still be a landslide.
The voting system needs a drastic change to a PR voting system. Id prefer the STV system. In 2015, UKIP had 4 million votes and won 1 seat and snp had under 2 million and won 58 seats.
If Reform has 18% of the vote as some predict and dont win a single seat then there is something wrong with our system.
I know many of you here dont think thats a problem cause you hate UKIP/Reform, but one day it could happen to a party you do like.
If 1 in 5 people are voting for a party and that party doesnt get even one seat, then there is a massive problem with our electoral system.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
I'm broadly centre-left in my views so I've always voted either Labour or Lib Dem depending on who were better aligned at that particularly time. Labour have shifted to centre-left recently and the Lib Dems are a mess; easy decision for me.
I do think this election could be brutal for the Tories. I've got friends who vote Tory who say they won't vote in the next GE. Won't vote Labour/LD either but will abstain because they feel the party needs to be held accountable at the ballot box for the cluster-feck of the last few years.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Surprised how many say they're now closer to greens than Labour.
They have some good policies but also some quite unhinged ones, and it seems a bit counterintuitive to go on about green energy but be so opposed to nuclear power stations.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Xavi
That has always been something that’s annoyed me about the Greens. Nuclear energy in the UK is surely the greenest and safest form of energy? I would love to be able to vote for Labour but under their current leader they represent very little for me and many I speak to.
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posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
As for election choices, I vote pragmatically. If there's a chance of a Tory getting elected, I vote for the party best positioned to beat them. If it's a safe seat, I'll vote for the party I agree with most, which is likely to be the Greens at the moment.
In the meantime, I advocate putting pressure on Labour - the next party of government - to respect its membership's stated view and adopt a proportional electoral system. I'm fed up of Labour candidates telling us "you have to vote for me because in the first past the post system it's a binary choice" while having no interest in reforming that system.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’d genuinely like to hear from a Tory voter about why they would vote that way because I find it insane.
I’m yet to see anything other than ‘but Labour’ tbh
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The two threats to progressive government are 1) the ~25% committed right-wing base (which will follow the Tory/Reform party into full-on authoritarianism, judging by international as well as British trends), and 2) "they're all the same" cynicism. It's quite possible that enough people fall into the second camp that the first regain power before long.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Labour voter here and have been all my life thus far. However I'm not naive to think they are perfect solution. The most definitely aren't but still preferable to the Tories.
I have had to listen to over a decade of excuses from this ridiculous government about how Labour created the financial crisis the Tories inherited. No guys.....that would be the bankers and I'd hazard a guess that 99%
are Tories themselves too. 😂
The problem with UK politics is people make their mind up on debates before they hear all the facts just because of the party they tend to vote for.
I see myself as a mainly liberal thinking person but even I am slightly conservative on a few issues. There's no one single party that ticks all boxes and never will be.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 seconds ago
As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 seconds ago
As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
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Yep, spot on, but I’d add pretty much anything that Chris Grayling worked on.
I read a report that said he’d single handed pay cost the country £2bn simply through incompetence.
But brown people in boats eh.
Like I said, I’d be interested to hear from any Tory as to why they would even consider voting for them.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’d genuinely like to hear from a Tory voter about why they would vote that way because I find it insane.
I’m yet to see anything other than ‘but Labour’ tbh
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The two threats to progressive government are 1) the ~25% committed right-wing base (which will follow the Tory/Reform party into full-on authoritarianism, judging by international as well as British trends), and 2) "they're all the same" cynicism. It's quite possible that enough people fall into the second camp that the first regain power before long.
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The biggest problem I have with the 'they're all the same' narrative is Labour are seemingly judged by a higher standard than the Tories, with numerous scandals, controversies, lies etc obsfucated or played down.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 19 minutes ago
I'm more Plaid Cymru than anything else but, because it's a UK election and Labour have more chance of ousting the Tories here than Plaid, I shall give me vote to Labour. I really do think we'd be better off independent though but a story for another day that is.
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I think Plaid will win the Ynys Môn constituency this year, first time since 1997. It could be a decent showing from them this election.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 14 minutes ago
The Tories have been useless, but I like what they are planning with sending illegal immigrants to Rwanda and the welfare state / getting the bone idle into work etc
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You actually like a scheme that is going to cost £500m to relocate all of 300 people?
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The appeal to the nativist section of the electorate is never about addressing and solving problems. It focuses on symbolic acts, and increasingly on performative cruelty. Immigration policy over the last decade has been headlined by more and more extreme ideas from brainstorming sessions on how to be mean to foreigners.
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Seems Ireland are up in arms now that migrants could decide to land on their shores instead of the UK now.
The whole thing is fecked, I saw an article today from a father who lost his daughter in a crossing. They've been in Europe for over 15 years, in Sweden, Belgium, France and their only option was to cross to the UK or be deported to Iraq.....make it make sense for me please.
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Although I agree with the need to sort out our boarders, but equally our government have been the cause to a vast majority of refugees across the world, due to our interferences in Iraq, Afghanistan, many African countries, Israel and many other states in the Middle East.
Also a lot of our population just don't like particular careers anymore like nursing, delivery drivers, convenience stores, doctors, taxi drivers and many others, so we've had to import people from other countries and others have just come independently to work in those roles.
We can't make the same mistakes like say Idi Armin made when he exiled the Indians...
It's tough times ahead and it's gonna be huge work to turn round this country's direction, which will include other issues like Social media, the NHS, benefits, Cannabis legislation and many more.
For me I feel that Tories have led our country down this path so they need to go for the foreseeable future, labour I may very reluctantly vote just so those guys arent in the picture, lib Dems need to chance imo, reform are nearly all ex Tories of which concerns me and the restt dont stand a chance.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
"I have had to listen to over a decade of excuses from this ridiculous government about how Labour created the financial crisis the Tories inherited. No guys.....that would be the bankers and I'd hazard a guess that 99%
are Tories themselves too. 😂"
Where was Rishi Sunak employed in 2008? I know he came from Goldman Sachs into politics.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by BraveheartTyke (U6173)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 19 minutes ago
I'm more Plaid Cymru than anything else but, because it's a UK election and Labour have more chance of ousting the Tories here than Plaid, I shall give me vote to Labour. I really do think we'd be better off independent though but a story for another day that is.
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I think Plaid will win the Ynys Môn constituency this year, first time since 1997. It could be a decent showing from them this election.
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They could well do. If I lived there I'd be voting for them. Where I am in Conwy County is Tory though with the best chance of removing them the Labour candidate.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by BraveheartTyke (U6173)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 19 minutes ago
I'm more Plaid Cymru than anything else but, because it's a UK election and Labour have more chance of ousting the Tories here than Plaid, I shall give me vote to Labour. I really do think we'd be better off independent though but a story for another day that is.
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I think Plaid will win the Ynys Môn constituency this year, first time since 1997. It could be a decent showing from them this election.
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They could well do. If I lived there I'd be voting for them. Where I am in Conwy County is Tory though with the best chance of removing them the Labour candidate.
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Yeah if you want the Tories out that would be your best bet in Aberconwy. Plaid's vote seems to have completely collapsed there since they abolished the old seat for the 2010 election.
It is a classic marginal seat, so could be an indicator how the night will go on a wider scale.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
While out of protest I'd consider voting neither Lab or Con, one of them is so bad I don't want to give Con a sniff, so I'm going to vote Labour
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by House (U17162)
posted 8 minutes ago
While out of protest I'd consider voting neither Lab or Con, one of them is so bad I don't want to give Con a sniff, so I'm going to vote Labour
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That's kinda where I am, as I haven't voted labour since 2005, however the Tories are so bad it's comedic, so will be voting labour
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 seconds ago
As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
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Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
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Yep, spot on, but I’d add pretty much anything that Chris Grayling worked on.
I read a report that said he’d single handed pay cost the country £2bn simply through incompetence.
But brown people in boats eh.
Like I said, I’d be interested to hear from any Tory as to why they would even consider voting for them.
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I don’t know a single Tory voter who has any intention of voting them in now, and I know many. It’ll be an absolute landslide.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by Never Mind the Defending: Here’s Jürgen Klopp’s Liverpool (U3979)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
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As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
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Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
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Yep, spot on, but I’d add pretty much anything that Chris Grayling worked on.
I read a report that said he’d single handed pay cost the country £2bn simply through incompetence.
But brown people in boats eh.
Like I said, I’d be interested to hear from any Tory as to why they would even consider voting for them.
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I don’t know a single Tory voter who has any intention of voting them in now, and I know many. It’ll be an absolute landslide.
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Same tbf
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by 1manontherun 7-0 (U4291)
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comment by Never Mind the Defending: Here’s Jürgen Klopp’s Liverpool (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 17 seconds ago
As I understand it, HS2 was about adding capacity, not just speed. It's an extra line, but also one that can carry more trains per day because they are faster. Inability to scale up = cap on supply, which is one of the inflationary pressures on ticket prices.
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HS2 was and is needed. The Tories have now halted work on it despite literally millions of buckets bring in the ground.
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Sunak's decision to not only scrap HS2, but hasten to cheaply sell of the land that had been expensively acquired is one of the less remarked Tory disgraces of the last 14 years. Delivering a massive financial loss for the country, serving the single purpose of making it very difficult and even more expensive for the next government to resurrect the policy (...a policy which the current Tory government was mandated to enact, based on its 2019 manifesto).
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Yep, spot on, but I’d add pretty much anything that Chris Grayling worked on.
I read a report that said he’d single handed pay cost the country £2bn simply through incompetence.
But brown people in boats eh.
Like I said, I’d be interested to hear from any Tory as to why they would even consider voting for them.
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I don’t know a single Tory voter who has any intention of voting them in now, and I know many. It’ll be an absolute landslide.
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Same tbf
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Yeah it will be a landslide that makes 1997 look like a tight contest. I wouldn’t say Starmer has done anything worthy of winning an election. He’s like that Aussie ice skater who won Olympic gold because everyone else crashed into each other
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
I’m sure Labour will win but not because many voting for them feel like they offer what they want, more they just want the Tories out. Saying that from people I speak to (London) many will vote for the Greens or Independant because they’re pretty sure the Tories won’t win and they also don’t relate to the Labour Party these days.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
the JA606 Opinion Poll is the most accurate in the country
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Only have Mayor elections tomorrow - tempted to vote for the maverick standing for Yorkshire Independence and free chickens
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
I’ll be voting Kahn for London Mayor but then Green for the GE.
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you are going to vote for the worst mayor london has ever had...
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
No option for the Monster Raving Loony party? Or do they masquerade as the tories?
Our shower over here are as bad and will be most likely a Sinn Fein led government by this time next year
Should be fun
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
The tories are awful but so are the alternatives. Labour will win a majority but they haven't won the election. The tories lost it.
I do think some people who say they arent voting tory, will do so when at the ballot box. Some change their mind last minute because they dont vote any other way and dont think their change of vote will make a difference or they dont want Labour.
So i think the majority for labour wont be as big as people predict and the tories wont lose as many seats as predicted. However, it will still be a landslide.
The voting system needs a drastic change to a PR voting system. Id prefer the STV system. In 2015, UKIP had 4 million votes and won 1 seat and snp had under 2 million and won 58 seats.
If Reform has 18% of the vote as some predict and dont win a single seat then there is something wrong with our system.
I know many of you here dont think thats a problem cause you hate UKIP/Reform, but one day it could happen to a party you do like.
If 1 in 5 people are voting for a party and that party doesnt get even one seat, then there is a massive problem with our electoral system.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
I'm broadly centre-left in my views so I've always voted either Labour or Lib Dem depending on who were better aligned at that particularly time. Labour have shifted to centre-left recently and the Lib Dems are a mess; easy decision for me.
I do think this election could be brutal for the Tories. I've got friends who vote Tory who say they won't vote in the next GE. Won't vote Labour/LD either but will abstain because they feel the party needs to be held accountable at the ballot box for the cluster-feck of the last few years.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Surprised how many say they're now closer to greens than Labour.
They have some good policies but also some quite unhinged ones, and it seems a bit counterintuitive to go on about green energy but be so opposed to nuclear power stations.
posted 2 weeks, 3 days ago
Xavi
That has always been something that’s annoyed me about the Greens. Nuclear energy in the UK is surely the greenest and safest form of energy? I would love to be able to vote for Labour but under their current leader they represent very little for me and many I speak to.
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