Without the support for ETH it would be 2026
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 10 minutes ago
Without the support for ETH it would be 2026
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Don't worry, he'll be gone by end of October
1 win in last 9 European games
53% win rate in all competitions in 2024
comment by Garnacho cheese (U5318)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 10 minutes ago
Without the support for ETH it would be 2026
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Don't worry, he'll be gone by end of October
1 win in last 9 European games
53% win rate in all competitions in 2024
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Mid term review will be key, allowing ETH 3 additional months stay of execution, as the bare minimum, to oversee a significant uplift in performance or else.
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 23 minutes ago
Without the support for ETH it would be 2026
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Your ETH stance holds enough merit, F, that I can no longer disagree! Plenty of posters have gone on record to say all the ingredients are in place, it simply requires the right chef to blend it all to together to produce a palatable dish!
Just shows how much work needs to be done if that’s the ambition.
And also an indication that our transfer policy won’t be focussed too much on players in their prime, which is a big problem if you want to be successful in this league.
That'll attract the big players in summer. "If I come to the biggest club in the world, will we try and win the PL next season?"
"No".
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
And also an indication that our transfer policy won’t be focussed too much on players in their prime, which is a big problem if you want to be successful in this league.
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We have a good few players, many of whom you’d expect to be key over the next few seasons, who should be approaching their prime years around 2027, particularly in defence.
The problem is midfield, where as usual we’re too young and too old, and up top, where we’re full of potential but with little experience.
2027 is crazy stretch, if we’re being honest. There are still question marks over the goalkeeper. If he settles in properly, finds his groove, and builds some proper relationships with his defenders, the potential is there I think, but for now it is somewhat unrealised.
We have no reliable left back in the squad, and for me, are in need of two new players. We’re starting from scratch there. The rest of the defence can be there or thereabouts.
Midfield, facking still, needs heavy investment. At present, it’s barely mid-table in terms of strength in depth. Put a De Jong (yeah, I know) next to Ugarte and add another decent ball-winner into the mix with Mainoo, and we can start to talk.
Then there’s putting the ball in the net. We have two very dangerous but inconsistent wingers and a third with plenty of potential, but none which looks close to guaranteeing 20 goals and assists a season. And of the rest of the forwards, the only one which has displayed a real talent for burying chances is starting to look like he has fitness issues, which are always a big worry coming at the start of a player’s career.
So all we really need is the goalie to work out, two new left backs, a world class ball progressor and some depth for the midfield, a heap more consistency from the wingers, Bruno and Mount to regain their peak powers, and Hojlund to get fit and stay fit. And probably an experienced utility forward. And City to get relegated and Captain Scarlet to go to Barcelona. So not much really.
City. Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona, Munich, PSG and others have the same ambitions. It's pointless having these targets, just do the best you can.
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
And also an indication that our transfer policy won’t be focussed too much on players in their prime, which is a big problem if you want to be successful in this league.
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We have a good few players, many of whom you’d expect to be key over the next few seasons, who should be approaching their prime years around 2027, particularly in defence.
The problem is midfield, where as usual we’re too young and too old, and up top, where we’re full of potential but with little experience.
2027 is crazy stretch, if we’re being honest. There are still question marks over the goalkeeper. If he settles in properly, finds his groove, and builds some proper relationships with his defenders, the potential is there I think, but for now it is somewhat unrealised.
We have no reliable left back in the squad, and for me, are in need of two new players. We’re starting from scratch there. The rest of the defence can be there or thereabouts.
Midfield, facking still, needs heavy investment. At present, it’s barely mid-table in terms of strength in depth. Put a De Jong (yeah, I know) next to Ugarte and add another decent ball-winner into the mix with Mainoo, and we can start to talk.
Then there’s putting the ball in the net. We have two very dangerous but inconsistent wingers and a third with plenty of potential, but none which looks close to guaranteeing 20 goals and assists a season. And of the rest of the forwards, the only one which has displayed a real talent for burying chances is starting to look like he has fitness issues, which are always a big worry coming at the start of a player’s career.
So all we really need is the goalie to work out, two new left backs, a world class ball progressor and some depth for the midfield, a heap more consistency from the wingers, Bruno and Mount to regain their peak powers, and Hojlund to get fit and stay fit. And probably an experienced utility forward. And City to get relegated and Captain Scarlet to go to Barcelona. So not much really.
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Yeah there’s a lot of work to be done. And another problem is if we don’t have the right balance betweeb youth, experience and players in their prime.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
City. Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona, Munich, PSG and others have the same ambitions. It's pointless having these targets, just do the best you can.
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Never pointless, 52, to set targets, even if they seem overly ambitious. Targets guide, they are used to measure performance, they make certain individuals accountable and finally if it doesn't motivate everyone at the club to mark a milestone as a time to win the league again, when can it?
Task in hand is a massive undertaking, it suggests we have moved away from short term hire and fire tactics. The long term ambitions is further underscored by the type, profile and age of players we are targeting under the new structure.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
City. Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona, Munich, PSG and others have the same ambitions. It's pointless having these targets, just do the best you can.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Never pointless, 52, to set targets, even if they seem overly ambitious. Targets guide, they are used to measure performance, they make certain individuals accountable and finally if it doesn't motivate everyone at the club to mark a milestone as a time to win the league again, when can it?
Task in hand is a massive undertaking, it suggests we have moved away from short term hire and fire tactics. The long term ambitions is further underscored by the type, profile and age of players we are targeting under the new structure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they will all have the same targets.
Rosso,
In full agreement.
A shortful in GK, two LBs, DM and 2 CM controllers & an out and striker is all ETH needs to make the team competitive, giving the squad more depth and quality! Impressed with Amad's development down the right, more options required. Equally Nacho will progress further down the left but question mark remains over Rashford. Antony will be surplus to requirements, matter of time he finds pastures new.
comment by manusince52
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
City. Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona, Munich, PSG and others have the same ambitions. It's pointless having these targets, just do the best you can.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Never pointless, 52, to set targets, even if they seem overly ambitious. Targets guide, they are used to measure performance, they make certain individuals accountable and finally if it doesn't motivate everyone at the club to mark a milestone as a time to win the league again, when can it?
Task in hand is a massive undertaking, it suggests we have moved away from short term hire and fire tactics. The long term ambitions is further underscored by the type, profile and age of players we are targeting under the new structure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they will all have the same targets.
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And those at the sharp end elevate themselves over their rivals by having targets, the same targets. Contrast that to Utd, who have had zero ambitions, since SAF retired because the leadership made it clear "Utd did not need to win anything". If the leadership placed zero importance on sporting success are we surprised we are where we are?
Before the new structure we had no realistic ambition, only pipe dreams, now with a professional set up - with sporting success at the fore front - we can dream like all the other elite clubs.
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
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Every successful side strikes a balance between youth and experience. We'll watch our next transfer window with keen interest but as Rosso pointed out the new transfer strategy seems to be to identify youthful talent with great promise, we also have a few progressing through our academy with the view they will reach their prime at some point as a group to make Utd serious challengers in the future.
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posted on 26/9/24
Without the support for ETH it would be 2026
posted on 26/9/24
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 10 minutes ago
Without the support for ETH it would be 2026
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Don't worry, he'll be gone by end of October
1 win in last 9 European games
53% win rate in all competitions in 2024
posted on 26/9/24
comment by Garnacho cheese (U5318)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 10 minutes ago
Without the support for ETH it would be 2026
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't worry, he'll be gone by end of October
1 win in last 9 European games
53% win rate in all competitions in 2024
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mid term review will be key, allowing ETH 3 additional months stay of execution, as the bare minimum, to oversee a significant uplift in performance or else.
posted on 26/9/24
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 23 minutes ago
Without the support for ETH it would be 2026
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Your ETH stance holds enough merit, F, that I can no longer disagree! Plenty of posters have gone on record to say all the ingredients are in place, it simply requires the right chef to blend it all to together to produce a palatable dish!
posted on 26/9/24
Just shows how much work needs to be done if that’s the ambition.
posted on 26/9/24
And also an indication that our transfer policy won’t be focussed too much on players in their prime, which is a big problem if you want to be successful in this league.
posted on 27/9/24
That'll attract the big players in summer. "If I come to the biggest club in the world, will we try and win the PL next season?"
"No".
posted on 27/9/24
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
And also an indication that our transfer policy won’t be focussed too much on players in their prime, which is a big problem if you want to be successful in this league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have a good few players, many of whom you’d expect to be key over the next few seasons, who should be approaching their prime years around 2027, particularly in defence.
The problem is midfield, where as usual we’re too young and too old, and up top, where we’re full of potential but with little experience.
2027 is crazy stretch, if we’re being honest. There are still question marks over the goalkeeper. If he settles in properly, finds his groove, and builds some proper relationships with his defenders, the potential is there I think, but for now it is somewhat unrealised.
We have no reliable left back in the squad, and for me, are in need of two new players. We’re starting from scratch there. The rest of the defence can be there or thereabouts.
Midfield, facking still, needs heavy investment. At present, it’s barely mid-table in terms of strength in depth. Put a De Jong (yeah, I know) next to Ugarte and add another decent ball-winner into the mix with Mainoo, and we can start to talk.
Then there’s putting the ball in the net. We have two very dangerous but inconsistent wingers and a third with plenty of potential, but none which looks close to guaranteeing 20 goals and assists a season. And of the rest of the forwards, the only one which has displayed a real talent for burying chances is starting to look like he has fitness issues, which are always a big worry coming at the start of a player’s career.
So all we really need is the goalie to work out, two new left backs, a world class ball progressor and some depth for the midfield, a heap more consistency from the wingers, Bruno and Mount to regain their peak powers, and Hojlund to get fit and stay fit. And probably an experienced utility forward. And City to get relegated and Captain Scarlet to go to Barcelona. So not much really.
posted on 27/9/24
City. Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona, Munich, PSG and others have the same ambitions. It's pointless having these targets, just do the best you can.
posted on 27/9/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
And also an indication that our transfer policy won’t be focussed too much on players in their prime, which is a big problem if you want to be successful in this league.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We have a good few players, many of whom you’d expect to be key over the next few seasons, who should be approaching their prime years around 2027, particularly in defence.
The problem is midfield, where as usual we’re too young and too old, and up top, where we’re full of potential but with little experience.
2027 is crazy stretch, if we’re being honest. There are still question marks over the goalkeeper. If he settles in properly, finds his groove, and builds some proper relationships with his defenders, the potential is there I think, but for now it is somewhat unrealised.
We have no reliable left back in the squad, and for me, are in need of two new players. We’re starting from scratch there. The rest of the defence can be there or thereabouts.
Midfield, facking still, needs heavy investment. At present, it’s barely mid-table in terms of strength in depth. Put a De Jong (yeah, I know) next to Ugarte and add another decent ball-winner into the mix with Mainoo, and we can start to talk.
Then there’s putting the ball in the net. We have two very dangerous but inconsistent wingers and a third with plenty of potential, but none which looks close to guaranteeing 20 goals and assists a season. And of the rest of the forwards, the only one which has displayed a real talent for burying chances is starting to look like he has fitness issues, which are always a big worry coming at the start of a player’s career.
So all we really need is the goalie to work out, two new left backs, a world class ball progressor and some depth for the midfield, a heap more consistency from the wingers, Bruno and Mount to regain their peak powers, and Hojlund to get fit and stay fit. And probably an experienced utility forward. And City to get relegated and Captain Scarlet to go to Barcelona. So not much really.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah there’s a lot of work to be done. And another problem is if we don’t have the right balance betweeb youth, experience and players in their prime.
posted on 27/9/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
City. Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona, Munich, PSG and others have the same ambitions. It's pointless having these targets, just do the best you can.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Never pointless, 52, to set targets, even if they seem overly ambitious. Targets guide, they are used to measure performance, they make certain individuals accountable and finally if it doesn't motivate everyone at the club to mark a milestone as a time to win the league again, when can it?
Task in hand is a massive undertaking, it suggests we have moved away from short term hire and fire tactics. The long term ambitions is further underscored by the type, profile and age of players we are targeting under the new structure.
posted on 27/9/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
City. Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona, Munich, PSG and others have the same ambitions. It's pointless having these targets, just do the best you can.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Never pointless, 52, to set targets, even if they seem overly ambitious. Targets guide, they are used to measure performance, they make certain individuals accountable and finally if it doesn't motivate everyone at the club to mark a milestone as a time to win the league again, when can it?
Task in hand is a massive undertaking, it suggests we have moved away from short term hire and fire tactics. The long term ambitions is further underscored by the type, profile and age of players we are targeting under the new structure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they will all have the same targets.
posted on 27/9/24
Rosso,
In full agreement.
A shortful in GK, two LBs, DM and 2 CM controllers & an out and striker is all ETH needs to make the team competitive, giving the squad more depth and quality! Impressed with Amad's development down the right, more options required. Equally Nacho will progress further down the left but question mark remains over Rashford. Antony will be surplus to requirements, matter of time he finds pastures new.
posted on 27/9/24
comment by manusince52
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
City. Arsenal, Liverpool, Real, Barcelona, Munich, PSG and others have the same ambitions. It's pointless having these targets, just do the best you can.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Never pointless, 52, to set targets, even if they seem overly ambitious. Targets guide, they are used to measure performance, they make certain individuals accountable and finally if it doesn't motivate everyone at the club to mark a milestone as a time to win the league again, when can it?
Task in hand is a massive undertaking, it suggests we have moved away from short term hire and fire tactics. The long term ambitions is further underscored by the type, profile and age of players we are targeting under the new structure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But they will all have the same targets.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And those at the sharp end elevate themselves over their rivals by having targets, the same targets. Contrast that to Utd, who have had zero ambitions, since SAF retired because the leadership made it clear "Utd did not need to win anything". If the leadership placed zero importance on sporting success are we surprised we are where we are?
Before the new structure we had no realistic ambition, only pipe dreams, now with a professional set up - with sporting success at the fore front - we can dream like all the other elite clubs.
posted on 27/9/24
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
--
Every successful side strikes a balance between youth and experience. We'll watch our next transfer window with keen interest but as Rosso pointed out the new transfer strategy seems to be to identify youthful talent with great promise, we also have a few progressing through our academy with the view they will reach their prime at some point as a group to make Utd serious challengers in the future.
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