comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted about a minute ago
It's not a foul in rugby because of the risk of injury when the players collide in midair. The serious risk is that a player can have his legs taken out from under him and suffer a serious injury when he lands on his head/neck.

Granted the speeds involved in these Kane backing-in incidents are significantly lower - and Kane himself reduces a lot of the force and momentum by letting himself be knocked over rather than forcing his momentum through the impact - but it's the same concept. It's dangerous. Not to mention it's clearly not a facking foul to intentionally let yourself get knocked over by not actually challenging for the ball.
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Difference being that those impacts are significantly more violent in rugby. It's not just an aside that the contact is slower and much more easily anticipated in football, it's very much the difference between a slightly uncomfortable landing and a 20 stone caant wiping you out while you're trying to make a fair catch.

Like I say, if there was some precedent of it actually causing harm on the football pitch, I'm happy to agree. But there isn't. If this is so dangerous and an obvious red, you should at least be able to name one player that got hurt because of this.
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I'm not disagreeing - it's not AS dangerous as the equivalent(-ish) offence in rugby, which is why there's been fewer injuries resulting from it in football. I do think it should be treated more seriously than it is in football, though. I definitely don't think Kane should get the benefit of the ref's decision in those incidents.

Trouble is, footballers are so facking cynical that as soon as the ref starting blowing for a foul by Kane, you'd just have centre halves winning fouls on purpose by jumping over centre forwards every match.
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Fair enough. Yes that's my concern, too. Once you try to legislate for this it becomes a mess. A bit of common sense is needed.

officiating and common sense c'mon Bales mate

It was all okay before they brought the bloody cameras in and every decision has to be 'right'

comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 6 minutes ago
Sorry but I don't see that basketball is useful for defining rules on a football pitch. They're all about watching the minutiae of players feet moving. I guess we could do it with VAR
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Why not when it is a good rule in basketball and easily translatable. That rule would make a lot of sense in football. You can’t punch anyone in the face in basketball it’s also a good rule in football

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 6 minutes ago
Sorry but I don't see that basketball is useful for defining rules on a football pitch. They're all about watching the minutiae of players feet moving. I guess we could do it with VAR
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Why not when it is a good rule in basketball and easily translatable. That rule would make a lot of sense in football. You can’t punch anyone in the face in basketball it’s also a good rule in football
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I don't know, basketball players are much more conscious of moving their feet or not. It's a big part of the game, right? Traveling and everything. VAR would probably decide that 99% of players are moving on contact with the jumping player. I don't think it would work as easily as you expect.

Plus I'm not sure that is a great rule. I can think of at least 3 players that I'd like to see punched in the face

The rule could be adjusted accordingly though. Did Kane stand his ground? If yes then no foul. If no then he has gone out his way to come into contact with someone

Yeah I do see your point, in essence it could work. Though how you decide whether a player has moved deliberately to cause an obstruction or is genuinely trying to position himself to win the ball will be tough. Both could be true, to be fair, it is a contact sport..

I think a bigger issue though would be, as Amanda pointed out, how you stop defenders taking advantage of the new rule. Say Son has his back to goal, he's turning as he anticipates receiving a pass and can't see the defender but knows where he'll be. You could just jump on top of him as the ball arrives and win a free kick.

I think you’d get around that though, because otherwise it would be an issue in basketball too. The law only can be used in instances of the ball being in the air

Then you have to define what's 'in the air'. In this scenario it could be a long ball that Son has decided to not try and head, but to gamble on the defender missing the header. It could be chest height, bouncing in front of him.

Now I am being facetious. I get what you mean by it, and in theory yes it makes sense. But this is the VAR world.

That’s the issue with football and VAR though, it forces you to be specific in a game that isn’t well defined

Yes indeed.

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Rule can apply to Kane only

Democracy in action

Could someone pease kindly give me an overview of the entire discussion here over the past week or two

comment by Keyser Jöse (U3338)
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Could someone pease kindly give me an overview of the entire discussion here over the past week or two
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Kane being a cheat and dangerous

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comment by Keyser Jöse (U3338)
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Could someone pease kindly give me an overview of the entire discussion here over the past week or two
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comment by Phenom - least knowledgeable spurs poster 2019/20 (U20037)
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comment by Keyser Jöse (U3338)
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Could someone pease kindly give me an overview of the entire discussion here over the past week or two
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Thank you Phenom, could you elaborate please

comment by Blarmy (U14547)
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Arsenal related podcasts are funny for everyone

Backing into jumping players caused a debate cause I brought it up

Also we gossiped about a few non GNers

comment by Keyser Jöse (U3338)
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comment by Phenom- least knowledgeable spurs poster 2019/20 (U20037)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Keyser Jöse (U3338)
posted 26 seconds ago
Could someone pease kindly give me an overview of the entire discussion here over the past week or two
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Kane being a cheat and dangerous

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Thank you Phenom, could you elaborate please
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Give the lad a break. He's got the 'rona.

J also stripped off because nobody worried about his ECG

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Ffs facking autocorrect