I see most of our fans are convinced that 40M would be enough for us to allow Fabregas to leave. But I get the feeling we're only accepting 40M because we want this long lasting transfer saga to end, not because we believe that's Fabregas' real value. I know reading the same thing everyday is boring and frustrating, but imo we shouldn't give up and sell him until they pay us what he's worth.
I'm not having a go at Chelsea here, but they paid 50M for a player who wasn't at his best. Why? Because they know he's a world class player who will eventually settle in and start winning them games on his own. So if Barca think Fabregas' value has gone down because he's had a few injury problems, they can do one. They're trying to bargain with us because they know Fabregas' heart is in Barca and he wants to join them.
Also, why are players like Pastore and Sanchez valued higher than Fabregas? Have they been performing consistently at the highest level for the past 6 years like Fabregas? No. Yet Palermo are said to have received a 45M offer for Pastore. On which planet is Pastore worth more than Fabregas? Certainly not on Earth.
Anyway, my point is Gooners, we shouldn't just sell him for less than what he's worth just for the sake of it. We've made this mistake before with Henry, it would be rather stupid of us to commit the same mistake again. So, if Barca are not willing to make a serious offer for him, then we shouldn't allow him to leave. I know it's easier said than done, but we just can't allow players to leave us whenever they feel like it, especially if we're not gaining a fair amount of money from their departure.
Much love, Kamran.
Why are we accepting defeat?
posted on 2/7/11
As much as I hate Real, it would be brilliant to see Cesc end up there for £45m which is probably what he is truly worth IMO. With a midfield of Fabregas, Alonso and Ozil they would easily be able to match Barca.
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I think Cesc really dos like Arsenal. The only club he would probably leave them for are his hometown club. Can't see a proud Catalan with so many connections to Barca joining Real, to be honest.
posted on 2/7/11
He won't. There is as much chance of Lampard signing for West Ham tomorrow as there is Cesc joining Real. Barcelona is almost like my 2nd home and I've come across Castillian people before as well and the hatred runs deep. Goes far beyond football IMO.
If Cesc went to real, he would never be able to go home again and he knows it.
Arsenal are still Cesc's club and have looked after him as a boy, he will only join Barca if he goes.
posted on 2/7/11
Its pointless keeping a player who wants to leave, if nasri, clichy and cesc wants to leave so be it. Wenger should bring in players who wan't to play for Arsenal. This kind of thinking that Arsenal is a transit club should stop. £20 for nasri, £10 for clichy and £35 plus a youthful player from barca for cesc is sweet music to me cut your loses and move on. In a few years they will be involved in relegation battles and bench warming like hleb and adebayor. Wenger's biggest mistake is babysitting these brats and contending with their hissy fits Its high time the kid glove came off and every game should be an evaluation parameter for each player, you play like garbage you get flogged off, sour_puss face ditto , miss a sitter that harry's missus could have tucked in!! ditto i am sick and tired of the prima-donna attitude. At this level we don't need a therapist to deal with their emotional issues they get paid to play
posted on 2/7/11
Arsenal are still Cesc's club and have looked after him as a boy, he will only join Barca if he goes
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And how badly he wants to go.
posted on 2/7/11
comment by Hello My Name Is Vermaelen (U3896)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
Barcelona are not going to budge, they know he wants to join and so do arsenal. If we get £40m offer we have to accept it, it is a good amount of money and we can use that money to help improve the whole team.
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We are not going to offer 40m. 35M maximam. If arsenal don't accept it than no probe. Keep cesc to captain your team.
posted on 2/7/11
comment by Never Blowing Bubbles (U7929)
posted 2 hours, 10 minutes ago
He won't. There is as much chance of Lampard signing for West Ham tomorrow as there is Cesc joining Real
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Why is that so unrealistic? The Lampard bit I mean. There's no comparison between the 2 scenarios! If Fabregas had once played for Real, then maybe you'd have a point.
posted on 2/7/11
but imo we shouldn't give up and sell him until they pay us what he's worth.
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Kamran, you never understand where the guy is wanting to go. Yes, Cesc is should be worth of more than 40M. If he could agree to go to Madrid, we would have got more money than Barcelona is expected to pay. but he didn't want to go other than barca. that's the problem mate.
posted on 2/7/11
"We could have asked for more if we had held out."
Are you kidding me? In today's market, yea you might have a point but when he was sold, £80M completely smashed the world record fee and even with the ridiculous transfer fees going around at the moment, nobody will come close to breaking Ronaldo's transfer record for a while. On top of that, the £80M wasn't paid in installments, it was a lump sum, one of payment of £80M.
Real Madrid gave United what they wanted for Ronaldo. Barca aren't giving us what we want and that means they shouldn't get who they want.
posted on 2/7/11
what you talking about manyoo.
80M was a fantastic price, so large fergie didnt even bother asking for more, ronaldo was straight out the door.
Barca are trying to bully us, our rivals would love us to sell cesc, for a price that will ensure we can no-way replace him.
Like the OP mentioned pastore 45M, sell Cesc for less than that and the board are mugs.
I'd happily sell to madrid, they'll pay what his worth!
posted on 4/7/11
Real Madrid gave United what they wanted for Ronaldo. Barca aren't giving us what we want and that means they shouldn't get who they want.
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but do u think it's good to hold a player who has lost desire to play will give us a benefit? I actually don't want Cesc to go had he interested to stay with us. but I am an advocate of his sell. what matters most however his sell should be with fair price and which will give us a new force. It should be a blessing in disguise.