They can all go... Apart from Jack

I was talking about talent. Ramsey has had a major setback but is by far the more promising midfielder. Miyaichi is extremely talented.

I disagree, wilshere has far more talent in my opinion. Ramsey is a better goal scorer, but thats it. Wilsheres touch, passing, and skill is far superior. Miyaichi is not even as talented as wellington silva let alone wilshere

"my argument was put forward earlier on"

No, all you put forward was an opinion that you have nothing to back up with.

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ok i will try and make this as simple for you to understand as possible..... judging by your clear awkwardness/lack of intelligence this may not be easy.

I put forward my OPINION that wilshere is an overated player. i then backed up my opinion by saying that i have seen him play live twice (probably twice more than most on this forum who praise him not stop).

You chose to ignore the NLD last season, in which he was thoroughly outclassed, but fine, lets focus on the Bolton game, which you decided to pick. I said that I came away from the game thinking he was a dirty player who did nothing to stand out whatsoever.

So my ARGUMENT is, that I have seen nothing either live or on tv to show me that he is anything other than a good player, who is seriously overhyped. This ARGUMENT is the basis on which I drew my conclusion.. which happens to be my OPINION - that he is completely overhyped because he is young and English.

Im sorry you took time and effort to make such a comprehensive comment, seeing as all it did was prove your limited understanding. I though you knew our disagreement was about you claiming wilshere did not play well against you for bolton, im not interested in your arguments about whether or not hes overrated, i disproved your assesment that wilshere had no influence in that game and you have no argument against it.

Wilshere's passing is certainly not up to Ramsey's standard. Ramsey is one of the few players who have Fabregas' vision. He is a better leader and his positional sense is fantastic.

i disproved your assesment that wilshere had no influence in that game and you have no argument against it.

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you didnt disprove anything. your opinion is different to mine. Whether or not someone plays well is subjective. There is no proof that can be given either way.

Well at last your right about something, but at least i have some evidence to support my claim. As well as the linked article i gave, owen coyle also called him the best player on the pitch. It hardly seems he had no influence on the game

his own manager called him the best player on the pitch..... great evidence that.

yeah, it does sound like the type of thing you'd say if your player had no influence on the game

my sarcasm > your sarcasm

Chronic_McPoof

One has only to watch Wilshere to know that he is going to be a great player.

You might have seen him have an off day, I have seen him tire late in games, but there is no doubting his footballing talent. It was the same with Cesc.

If you took your spud tinted glasses off for once you might be able to appreciate his talent, but then you just might not have any understanding of the game of football.