Whittaker forearm smash.

"Lennon's behaviour is out of order and he does make some bad calls but don't give me that empathy bull-cack Barcelona.About all those decent fans and how you feel for them.I felt zilch for you when Jim McClean was kicking the sh-oite out of a reporter."

Er, Ok.

Fact is, I do feel sorry for normal Celtic fans having to share their club with the paranoid half-wits that abound among their support, especially now that one of those paranoid half-wits has become their manager.

Was Willie Maley not born in N. Ireland?

I was including managers born in Scotland.

And I stand by my personal list.

And the nonsense from "forever" about "not competing on a level playing field" !

I have said before, who is to say that EBTs had not existed, Murray would not simply have pumped even more cash into the club.

The assertion that saving money by using EBTs allowed Rangers to be one up on the rest is complete fantasy.

IF Rangers are found to have used EBTs incorrectly (and that is all the BTC is about) then they will be a financial penalty.

And no amount of teeth gnashing or gum mashing from certain quarters will change that.

Live with it - Walter Smith was Rangers' most successful post war manager and second only to Bill Struth in success at Rangers.

As to the other managers on my list - I am going with not simply cups won, but with the way in which they manage. Davie Moyes is, IMO an excellent manager.

Tommy Docherty, whilst being around when there were a LOT of excellent managers was also extremely good.

Dalglish, yes was a better player, but is also a really good manager IMO, despite all the p!ss takes he gets.

I notice that my top 3 really went unchallenged....

Davie
You put up a list on a forum then it is up for debate. YOUR list is not written in stone.

How ridiculous can you be to say that attracting players you could not have afforded without tax dodging, if that is what it proves to be, is NOT an advantage???? Do not be a silly boy. Of course it is and of course had Smith not had that advantage he would not have had the players he had. As to Murray pumping more money into the club...............fantasy........the guys businesses had to be bailed out by the banks in a debt for asset swap and even at that this is not working. How stupid can someone be to think that £50m of unpaid tax to attract continental players of good quality is not an advantage??????

Get real ffs.

If rfc lose the tax case then they have cheated for a decade or more. Watch the reaction of European clubs who lost out to them, they will pursue Uefa to punish the cheats very very harshly.

Tommy Doc was not one of Scotlands greatest managers............Lambert is proving his worth.

McLean walks into the top ten well ahead of him or Smith even without the BTC loss. He achieved an enormous amount with very limited finances, whereas the waistcoat had a huge advantage and perhaps if the BTC goes against rfc, his club cheated, which can never be said about DU.

Forever - your clear anti Rangers bias is obvious.

But you cannot say for sure, neither can anyone else, that Murray would not have simply pumped more cash in.

Back then, he was throwing cash around like confetti.

And lest you forget,t he amount of unpaid tax under discussion in the big tac case is not £100m, £75m or even £50m. The tax itself is less than £25m, the rest being made up of interest & penalties, and which will fall due if HMRC win.

So to say that Rangers could not have afforded an extra £25m or more at the time in question is completely and utterly naive. Of course the club could. Money was be tossed about by Murray like it was Monopoly cash.

So please, again, spare me the green tinted "they cheated, so they did, and someone has to get them & beat them up" nonsense.

Other teams were not financially disadvantaged. No one can categorically prove that IF Rangers did misuse EBTs, they had a financial advantage they would not have had anyway.

And without that proof - the "Rangers Cheated Brigade" have absolutely no case.

Davie
It is ludicrous to claim that in the SPL £49m is not an advantage. It allowed rfc to sign players they could not have afforded. As to Murray throwing money around like it was confetti, if that was the case, why did he need the EBTs in the 1st place.

Of course it is cheating. Only a myopic rfc fan could see it otherwise.

All teams in the SPL and quite a few European clubs were cheated out of potential success and millions of pounds, if rfc actually lose the BTC.

Tainted Titles

As I said before, any amount in question of being "saved" through the use of EBTs is less than £25m.

And yes, this money COULD have easily been pumped in by Murray.

So, any comments as to clubs being cheated, or tainted titles, is pure anti Rangers bias with no categorical evidence nor basis in truth.

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Yeez are a bunch eh cheating kants.

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i wasn't talking about the tax case,i was just talking in general curly.