Having watched the Haye Klitschko fight again, can't help but feel Haye is getting a bit of a raw deal here.
For those who don't like him, seeing him made to eat his words I'm sure is enjoyable. For, originally, blaming his loss on the toe, he deserves ridicule.
However, in terms of actual performance was he really that awful?
He seems to be getting a hard time for failing to knock out or dominate a man who had all the physical advantages over him. Klitschko is being hailed as some sort of tactical genius for keeping the smaller man out of range and making no attempt to knock him out and Haye berated for not getting inside and failing to knock out a guy much bigger than him.
Let's not forget, WK failed to punish Haye for 12 rounds, failed to "give him a pizza face" and failed to knock him out as predicted. Haye slipped WK's punches pretty well in the first half of the fight and it was intrigueing watching both men trying to sucker one another in close.
Eventually, Wlad ran away with it in the 2nd half thanks to the jab as we all knew he would if Haye was not aggressive. Haye got his tactics wrong but, for me, was not totally outclassed. He simply struggled to get close to the much bigger man much like Holyfield did with Lewis.
I'd still be more interested in seeing a rematch of this with Haye knowing he has to commit to attack than watch Wlad fight another bum.
Raw Deal
posted on 5/7/11
Did you see his coach on Skysports today? He basically said it wasnt to do with his toe or his tactics he just lost to the better man. Its typical of fans to just turn on the lad cos he lost. He gave away over 2 stone to the guys, thats a few weight classes for any other fighter. Least he had the balls to get in the ring with him
posted on 6/7/11
The media are doing what they always do, they do exactly the same with the football teams. Build England and Scotland right up before a big match then slaughter them when they lose.
I had Haye losing by 4 rounds, after 8 I had him only one round behind.
After 9, George Foreman had the fight level. After 10, Manny Steward was telling WK in the corner that he would have to pick it up cos the fight could go either way cos neither him nor Haye had dominated.
Haye simply got his tactics wrong and struggled with Wlad's style and size. We thought Haye might stand a chance cos he has speed and power, with better tactics he may have stood a better chance, maybe.
I'd still like to see the rematch.
posted on 6/7/11
I had Haye losing by 4 rounds, after 8 I had him only one round behind.
After 9, George Foreman had the fight level. After 10, Manny Steward was telling WK in the corner that he would have to pick it up cos the fight could go either way cos neither him nor Haye had dominated.
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Well done all of you for being horrifically wrong.
As for rematch if haye wants to get beat again thats his buisness, nothing in it for wlad, hayes another bum. End of.
posted on 6/7/11
I like the whole story of Haye and WK. When Haye confronted him on the esculators at the shopping centre and said to WK he was going to go up in weight and add some excitment back into the heavyweight divison, which has lacked excitment since Tyson left.
To go from a cruiserweight champion and stepping up taking on the big boys and winning is a pretty decent achievement. Beating and almost knocking out Valuev, the biggest world heavy weight in history.
Haye lacked a plan B against WK and failed to improvise well enough to beat the effective jab that has seen off so many challengers in recent years.
Should there be a rematch, which i hope there is, im sure Haye will take the fight to WK, upon reflection, Haye has nothing to lose. If he stops the disrespectful bull**** and adds some charisma to his arsenal, he can win over the fans and beat WK at the same time!
posted on 7/7/11
So Wlad's own trainer doesn't know anything? Former world champ Foreman doesn't know anything?
The point is, it wasn't a high action fight. If Wlad was winning rounds he was sneaking them on the jab but Haye slipped alot of shots in the first half of the fight and did land some decent shots of his own.
Haye clearly lost but he didn't lose every round and he was certainly not badly beaten up.
However, if I'm gonna be wrong, I'd rather be wrong along with Manny Steward and Big George who both obviously know nothing.
posted on 10/7/11
Wow, are you clowns blind? Haye had nothing for klitchko other than backing up and swinging for fences in the air. he connected like 5 times and they were glancing blows. If he pressed the action more he would've eaten a lot more punches, and the result would've looked even more decisive than before
posted on 10/7/11
So Wlad's own trainer doesn't know anything? Former world champ Foreman doesn't know anything?
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Clearly not.