If England win Euro 2012

I stopped reading at "wins".

England will not win the Euro's and Hodgson should never have been given the Liverpool job!

His experience at managing international teams in major competitions may help.

But let's face it, his teams are dour and defensive and I believe that the real reason he was appointed was because his contract with WBA expires in the summer.

The FA wanted a yes man and he fitted the bill. He also saved them millions in compensation.

When Roy took over, the side was fully fit and completely built around 4-2-3-1 and a more continental style of football.

He shoved them in two rigid banks of 4 and told them to defend, hoof and counter. And it failed miserably for obvious reasons. The players didn't know and hated old school English kick, hoof and rush football.

The current (dire) group of England players are perfectly suited to old school English kick, hoof and rush football.

I actually think Roy's a good choice when you look at the current England side. They were made for each other.

redconn you optimistic then?

I reckon quarters.

This lot grew up playing Royball.

Redconn's point is something which had crossed my mind.

However, a bad Euro's may mean that Roy' s tenure may quickly follow the normal route and the media will be on his case and the Ing-ger-lund fans baying for blood.

Apparently the lower end tabloids are already ripping the pash out of him after one whole day in the job.

we've got a tough group mind

the margin for error is tiny

I think if he achives quarter finals, it will be seen as a success. Also there is low expections which may suit Roy style

Again the whole footballing world is laughing at England & FA.