Of course we're all hoping for a last-minute reprieve with a win at Stoke, but the reality is that that is highly unlikely.
it is funny how people see relegation. Grown men and women cry in front of the cameras. People use terms and phrases like 'disaster', 'nightmare scenario', 'oblivion', 'wilderness'.
We've dined at football's top-table for a long time, now, I've mostly enjoyed it (The BSA era in particular, with the likes of JJ and campo, the euro adventure) but a lot of the time it has been ghastly, hanging on, getting thumped.
The reality is that I've had most of my football watching fun outside the top-flight, especially the promotion campaigns from the bottom tier to the top. In modern football, unless we get a sudden sheik, outside the top flight is our only opportunity to actually 'win' anything. Surely celebrating a great championship campaign is better than celebrating finishing 17th?
People sneer about Barnsley, Bristol City, but you know what- these are proper clubs with proper fans (the real core, not the thousands who would appear should they one day make it to the Prem) and great days out.
My greatest Bolton moment? Wembley v Reading.
Again, I also like the chance to see us play the big clubs, but gimme the excitement of looking forward to working towards a title win, an automatic promo or a play off final.
And please, no posts from miserable soothsayers saying 'we'll be down for ever, we'll go bust' etc. We're poor but we're not that bad that we won't seriously compete in the Championship.
The promised land.
posted on 8/5/12
TTR- 'Don't mean any harm by this, but doesn't that make you a glory supporter?'
I appreciate you might not mean any harm, and none done, but I don't think you've really thought that through properly. But the turn 'glory supporters' is accepted as meaningthe ones who come along when the glory arrives, that glory mostly being defined as getting into the big time.
posted on 8/5/12
Fair enough, madnot.
Not in any way suggesting thy you are a glory supporter anyway. Just wanted to clear it up.
Anyway, like I said, I hope it doesn't come to that. Beating Stoke away at the Brit is a dead cert...😳
posted on 8/5/12
Just checked that, LH, the Stoke win is 13/8. Amazingly, however, bookies have us as slight favourites at 7/5.
Do they know something we don't? Or has no-one told them ZK is likely to playing....
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That's good news. I checked it Sunday night and we were 13/8 with Stoke favourites at 13/10. This means that the betting market fancies us to win.
Zat Knight's glorious BWFC swansong, and all this scorn...
posted on 8/5/12
It's more like hope money from the Whites, sympathy money from the neutrals and a lack of clever money in the market affecting that price largehat.
Nothing else.
posted on 8/5/12
Yeah, because people bet money out of sympathy all the time, don't they Bricks.
posted on 8/5/12
How do you rate your chances on Sunday? If you manage to stay up do you fancy Coyle to turn things around or do you think it's time for a new face? Not a wind up just interested in your opinions.
PS is my Spanish ffriend still Around?
posted on 8/5/12
*Friend* still suffering from last nights celebrations.
posted on 8/5/12
People are obviously betting on the fact that we have to win to stay up and Stoke have nothing to play for.
Can't use odds changing as a good or bad sign really, unless Tony Pullis has had a large bet on us to change them.
posted on 8/5/12
Yes MT is around.
posted on 8/5/12
Largehat: 13/8 is longer odds than 13/10, which means the betting markets fancy Stoke to win more than they fancy Bolton. I think the point you were making is that the betting markets see it as quite close with Stoke slight favourites, which is better than Stoke being hot favourites - the bookies think we have a reasonable chance. Something like that?