With the news that Harbhajan had passed this landmark in test matches , I wondered how may were taken at home compared to other spinners.
Harbhajan from 400 258 64.5%
Murali from 800 493 61.6%
Warne from 708 319 45%
Vettori from 345 155 44.9%
Swann from 140 61 43.6%
This would suggest that Shane Warne is arguably the best spinner.
Harbhajan passes 400 wickets.
posted on 8/7/11
warne was a better bowler by a mile but Harbie deserves congrates. he is working harder on his batting now instead of bowling. but overall remains a much useful player for the team success.
posted on 8/7/11
And he does have a test ton
Harby has been getting some negative comments from 606ers and CMSers but he will take wickets and cause problems this summer.
posted on 8/7/11
Nowhere do I say Harbhajan is a bad bowler nor any I listed, I simply was curious to know how important playing in their own conditions affected their wicket taking.
posted on 8/7/11
Hope
I wasn't suggesting you did say that.
My comment was in response to a few posters who seem to think he is past his best and will not cause to many problems this summer.
posted on 8/7/11
Well, I do think that he is way past his best, and won't ask too many questions this summer.
But the fundamentally flawed home-away stats has nothing to do with it. Harbhajan, like most spinners, bowls better with a ball that has a pronounced seam and therefore provides better grip. He should be as effective with the Duke as with the SG. The Kookaburra is another matter all together.
posted on 8/7/11
Why are these stats fundamentally flawed?
They suggest that Harbhajan and Murali are more effective on the sub-continent than in other conditions. Murali taking 76% of his wickets in conditions he's used too cannot simply be put down to a change of ball.
Most of Swann's wickets outside of England has been with the Kookaburra ball.
That ball is used in Oz, NZ, WI and SA.
I'm sure that is true for Warne's away wickets also.
posted on 8/7/11
> they suggest that Harbhajan and Murali are more
> effective on the sub-continent than in other conditions.
I don't know why you guys believe that 'the subcontinent' is the name of a cricket ground. As far as the nature of wicket goes, the MCG is closer to the Oval than Mohali is to Chennai. And the Premadasa may be on another planet altogether.
The 'sub continent' is not the easiest of places to bowl spin - as a brief perusal of Shane Warne's stats would reveal. Spinners prefer to have good bounce and good grip.
The most successful bowlers in India in the recent past have been Zaheer and Steyn, not Harbhajan. Bowlers like Gillespie and Hoggard have done well earlier. All of them have performed significantly better in India than either Warne or Murali.
posted on 8/7/11
I love your geography lesson , I hope you don't teach it at school.
posted on 9/7/11
Well done Harby. I, like ginger, think he may cause us a few more problems than expected in the coming series.
posted on 9/7/11
Harbhajan's finest moment was when KP bowled him and he refused to leave the crease. Not to mention his blatant and unforgivable racist comments. More importantly, this post indicates why India will probably lose the Test series - delusion and overconfidence. To compare Singh to Warne is absurd.,