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Hamilton's intelligence...

...is terrible!

Here is the updated list:


Monaco 2007 - team orders scandal
Nurburgring 2007 - crane incident
Hungary 2007 - team radio incident
Monza 2007 - cutting chicane at start
Japan 2007 - erratic driving behind SC
Brazil 2007 - misusing tyres in practice
Brazil 2007 - impeding a driver in qualifying
Malaysia 2008 - impeding a driver in qualifying
Bahran 2008 - collision
Canada 2008 - crashing into a parked car in pits
France 2008 - cutting corner
Belgium 2008 - cutting chicane
Monza 2008 - erratic driving
Japan 2008 - erratic driving at start
Australia 2009 - lying to stewards incident
Australia 2010 - road car incident
Malaysia 2010 - weaving on straight
China 2010 - unsafe release in pitlane
Turkey 2010 - team instructions scandal
Canada 2010 - qualifying fuel scandal
Europe 2010 - passing safety car incident
Monza 2010 - collision
Singapore 2010 - collision
Australia 2011- impeding a driver in qualy
Malaysia 2011 - weaving again
Spain 2011 - ignoring yellow flags
Monaco 2011 - cutting corner
Monaco 2011 - two collisions
Canada 2011 - two more collisions
Canada 2011 - speed limit infraction
Canada 2011 - dangerous conduct and parking
Britain 2011 - dangerous use of DRS in wet
Britain 2011 - malicious ramming into other cars

posted on 19/7/11

West Coast Don (Lawd have mercy)

The article is about Hamilton's dangerous driving;

The OP is lambasting him for his antics whilst ignoring other drivers who are doing the same or worse.

I have highlighted this as a point of debate. Things like erratic driving are nonsense, pretty much like the OP's article.

Hamilton's antics are laughable but if we are bashing drivers for dangerous driving, then Hamilton isn't alone, is he?

Why is Hamilton the prime focus when others are equally as guilty?

That is the point I've been trying to make. Dangerous driving is bad, so lets name and shame everyone.

I think that's fair, don't you? It's also my choice to post whatever I like in an article as part of the debate.

posted on 19/7/11

It's fair, but it is also completely off-topic. If you can't understand why that is, or why that might be an issue, I suggest you do some learning before joined any other fora in future.

As you said "The article is about Hamilton's dangerous driving" - and yet not a single one of your posts has addressed this (unless you did in one of your posts which was deleted, in which case I apologise). Everything you have written (that I can see) is about Alonso's dangerous driving.

If you're going to mention Alonso, at least tie it into the discussion at hand other than by saying "Yeah, but what about this other guy..."

Even if we were to accept that Alonso is the more dangerous driver, does that mean we shouldn't be able to discuss any faults Hamilton may have?

posted on 19/7/11

The OP deleted the comments where I made the distinction. My subsequent posts have been a challenge to his love for Fernando.

WTGL is known for wumming on other fora under a variety of usernames and monikers but the style is the same as well as the nonsense he/she/it posts.

posted on 19/7/11

westcoast, if you read his posts in teh first page of this article he calls Hamilton the most dangerous driver of all time as well as makes other ridiculous assertions. That's when Alonso was thrown into the mix for having an abysmal record

posted on 19/7/11

comment by WTGL (U1848)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Louis is officially the dirtiest driver of all time. The day he's gone out of F1 cannot come soon enough...
comment by WTGL (U1848)

posted 1 week, 2 days ago

Chelseamf™®© (U1677)

Nothing exciting about a thug who thinks he's above everyone and feels the need to ram into them.

The list now proves Louis is the worst cheater of all time; a scar on F1's friendly image. He'd be better off doing The Redneck Games, might actually win for once...
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Some examples of the nonsense

posted on 19/7/11

Belgarion of Riva:

"The OP deleted the comments where I made the distinction."

I thought there was a good chance that had happened. I know all about WGTL "imaginative" wumming.

I'm still not sure if the best way to argue in favour of Hamilton is to show that you think someone else is worse. Especially with the arguments you've made against Alonso, which TBH don't suggest a dangerous driver - just one willing to cheat/bend the rules to win.

For example, staying in your pit lane for a few seconds extra to disadvantage your teammate is not the same thing as attempting dangerous overtaking maneuvers at 180mph.

If you don't think Hamilton is dangerous, propose a defence for his driving; if you're just here to show Hamilton is bad, but Alonso is worse then I don't think this is the thread for you.

comment by WTGL (U1848)

posted on 19/7/11

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comment by WTGL (U1848)

posted on 19/7/11

comment by Belgarion of Riva (U8079)

WTGL is known for wumming on other fora under a variety of usernames and monikers but the style is the same as well as the nonsense he/she/it posts.

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Yet more pathetic baseless accusations. This has always been my 606 username since 2010. Although I had to recreate it several times because of the BBC's "politically correct" moderation team...

Louis is indeed the dirtiest driver of all time. Can you compile a list of comparably dangerous and disgraceful offenses for any other driver?

How many drivers have proven to break the rules as consistently as him? All this in just 9 races:


Australia 2011- impeding a driver in qualy
Malaysia 2011 - weaving again
Spain 2011 - ignoring yellow flags
Monaco 2011 - cutting corner
Monaco 2011 - two collisions
Canada 2011 - two more collisions
Canada 2011 - speed limit infraction
Canada 2011 - dangerous conduct and parking
Britain 2011 - dangerous use of DRS in wet
Britain 2011 - malicious ramming into other cars

posted on 19/7/11

Perhaps Riva's view of F1 is analogous to the traditional English view on football. Tackling someone two-footed from behind with every intention of breaking their legs is somehow seen as "manly", "tough" and "proper football" when in reality trying to hurt someone on a football pitch is one of the most cowardly things someone can do. Simiarly, those who use deciet and cunning to con the referee into giving a foul (i.e. diving) are seen as "despicable", "disgusting" and rather appropriately; "Spanish".

I'm not saying diving is right either, but it's a million times better than being a cowardly thug.

posted on 22/7/11

So Hobo, do you feel Hamilton deliberately tries to hurt anyone on the race track?

He always goes for an overtake but I won't classify him as dangerous.

Asking a team mate to crash to win a race of brake testing people, ignoring yellow flags etc are far more despicable acts. I wonder why you guys aren't up in arms about that driver?

I think I'll start an article

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