if terry's court date had been before the euro then what ever the outcome things would have been allowed to move forward and rio would've been in the squad
but as usual the incompetent FA had a part to play in postponing the court date till after the finals, and so leaving hodgson in a no win and embarrassing situation to take either one, and creating the 'footballing reason' excuse. hodgon obviously believes terry is the better player and so chose him which is fair enough as he's the coach
cant really blame hodgson because he must've thought that rio and terry in the same squad would raise tension and create a disharmony over rio's brother
i blame the FA and terry, useless human being he, how he keeps being allowed back in the squad is beyond me!
blame the FA for the rio saga
posted on 14/6/12
Errr no you numpty, and I know exactly what they are as my wife is a solicitor.
First off I laughed at you splitting hairs over semantics when the key point was Chelsea asked for the delay and a legal rep with the power to delay the case agreed. That is all that matters not the exact name of that legal rep.
Secondly I said 'judge' and 'magistrate' not 'district judge'. A magistrate can be referred to as a judge in common parlance, and legal.
I'll start with Wiki as that may be your level
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magistrate
I quote the opening line 'A magistrate is an officer of the state; in modern usage the term usually refers to a judge.'
Thirdly I said even those two are 'pretty much the same thing and a magistrate can be referred to as a judge of a police court and is able to try minor criminal cases.'
Here is a dictionary definition
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/magistrate?s=t
'a minor judicial officer, as a justice of the peace OR THE JUDGE OF A POLICE COURT' having jurisdiction to TRY MINOR CRIMINAL CASES and to conduct preliminary examinations of persons charged with serious crimes.
i.e. mega close to what I wrote, and clearly a magistrate can be referred to as a judge, just as I had said.
Ultimately you are arguing over a totally irrelevant point anyway.
How did you put it....'Epic fail'
posted on 14/6/12
Ah a City fan. I get why you are desperately trying to be pointlessly facetious with a United fan now. Need some intelligence for that though mate. 'Have a pop all you like, but make sure of your facts first.'
posted on 14/6/12
I'll leave you with one last thing FanFrom65 before we part company for good, and it wont comfort you as you wallow in the embarrassing irony of your 'epic fail' comment. It's a section taken from a report of the delay, which is linked below.
'Mr Carter-Stephenson handed DISTRICT JUDGE Howard Riddle a letter from Chelsea chief executive Ron Gourlay, who appealed for the trial to be delayed until after his players' domestic and international footballing commitments are over for the season.
JUDGE Riddle had hoped the case could be heard in March but accepted that other Chelsea players would not be able to appear as witnesses until the end of the football season.
Setting the new date, the MAGISTRATE took into account Chelsea's fixtures, Euro 2012, pre-season tours and the Olympics. The final of Euro 2012 takes place on July 1.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2094722/John-Terry-court-case-adjourned-July-9.html#ixzz1xiscfasi
Just to finish off the delicious irony, this all took place as Westminster MAGISTRATES court .
posted on 14/6/12
Sweet little pea..calm down u will give yourself a connery
My point was that the decision was even worse because it was made by a "supposedly" experenced law officer not an unpaid member of the public.
I don't need to use wikipedia nor do I accept everything as true just because it is in the daily mail.
The below is taken from a Judical website
District judges (magistrates' courts) are appointed by the Queen, on the recommendation of the Lord Chancellor, following a fair and open competition administered by the Judicial Appointment Commission.
The statutory qualification is a seven-year right of audience - the right of a lawyer to appear and speak as an advocate for a party in a case in the court - in relation to all proceedings in any part of the Supreme Court, or all proceedings in county courts or magistrates' courts. Additionally they will have usually served as deputy district judges (magistrates' courts) for a minimum of two years or 30 days' sittings.
Magistrates are trained, unpaid members of their local community, who work part-time and deal with less serious criminal cases, such as minor theft, criminal damage, public disorder and motoring offences.
And by the way, I am probably much older than your wife and have worked in the law all my working life.
posted on 14/6/12
You're a moron, a boring moron at that, still splitting hairs over something no-one is arguing about i.e. the formal definition of the official job titles Magistrate or District Judge. You're either pathetically pedantic, unable to accept what's laid out clearly for you or have more interest in coming onto the United board as a City fan to try and start pointless arguments. In only that respect you have succeeded, but it certainly wont happen with me again as I now know you're a time waster.
If you've worked in law all your life that's scary, but perhaps you should have focussed more time on learning english. Maybe you would then be able to read, absorb the content, understand what phrases like 'common parlance' mean, and even understand the difference between a 'coronary' and the scottish actor 'Connery'.
posted on 14/6/12
comment by The Wonderfully Sweet Little Pea (U6951)
If you've worked in law all your life that's scary, but perhaps you should have focussed more time on learning english. Maybe you would then be able to read, absorb the content, understand what phrases like 'common parlance' mean, and even understand the difference between a 'coronary' and the scottish actor 'Connery'.
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Sssssshhhhplendid.
posted on 14/6/12
Oh one last thing FanFrom65. I thought it would be fun to look at Judge Riddle's contact details, and funnily enough it says the following, so maybe you should call him and use all that legal knowledge you've built up over the years, and argue that he shouldn't have the word 'Magistrate' included next to his 'Position'. I'll accept a full apology without taking this to court
Contact
Howard Riddle
Position
Senior DISTRICT JUDGE (Chief MAGISTRATE)
Telephone
020 3126 3100
posted on 14/6/12
Sweet little pea
and even understand the difference between a 'coronary' and the scottish actor 'Connery'.
It's a line from Only Fools and Horses
posted on 14/6/12
I'm more interested in your apology to be honest, so when you're ready or are you waiting for a call back from the Chief Magistrate?
'epic fail' springs to mind.
posted on 15/6/12
Suddenly it's all gone quiet on the City front eh fanfrom65
Seriously, was that a lie about working in law all your life, because that's even more embarrassing if true?