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This is precisely the reason why I didnt want the tims to qualify for the Champions League

Look at 07/08...our Uefa Cup final season, the tic reached the last 16 of the Champions League that season.

Celtic's 07/08 co-efficient point tally....12.050
Our co-efficient point tally.....22.050!!

Co-efficient points are handed out for reaching certain stages of competitions, but winning games in Europe is where the most co-efficient points are dished out, particularly away games.

Celtic in the Champions League this season is going to equate to how many co-efficient points....I mean realistically, how many games are they going to win, if any??

Celtic in the Europa League however.....chance of getting through, more chance of winning games.

Of course the money aspect is what drives the 'Tic to reach the Champions League, and if my team was in the same position I'd be the same.

But any 'Tic fan that calls a bear a bitter bastirt for wanting Celtic into the Europa and not the Champions League need only look at the facts about co-efficient points that this link shows

To put it into even more perspective, go right down to team number 143.....Aberdeen, who got through the Uefa Cup groups that season, amassed 8.050 co-efficient points in 07/08.....not that much less than Celtic, who are always giving it laldy about the lat 16 of the Champions League being so sooperb....aye nae bother

Well no much hope for Motherwell or Hearts, good on Celtic the other night for a win against Helsing.

But seriously Lennon needs to get that defence sorted, Izzy WILL never be the player he was, Lustig big fairy boy, K wilson Oh My.

Lawell gee Lennon the green, or I will need to keep listening tae my uncle for another two hours saying what a tight fisted bastared you are!

Fair points st3vie

Fans are always going to want the ecl over the Europa though.

And you never know, if we get there, we might pump city home and away

But according to the list we sit at #441

Only phannies pay taxes.

Stevie - they changed the co-efficient rule in 2009 so you get an extra 5 points for reaching last 16 of CL. It was 1 point 2004-2009 and 0 before that.

With our 12, your 22 and Aberdeen's 8 all dropping off this year we'll need to win the competition to avoid about 6 qualifiers.

With our 12, your 22 and Aberdeen's 8 all dropping off this year we'll need to win the competition to avoid about 6 qualifiers.

Should be fine then

"With our 12, your 22 and Aberdeen's 8 all dropping off this year we'll need to win the competition to avoid about 6 qualifiers."

Thats true enough mate....point is a Eruopa League campaign for Celtic could be a lot better than a mediocre Champions League one, co-efficient wise

For example, last season, yon Metalist Kharkiv got to the quarter finals of the Europa League and got 19.550 co-efficient points in doing so.

Yon Apoel got to the quarters of the Champions League...and got 20.825, a mere 1.275 more.

Quarters of the Europa would be a lot more easier to get to, and just about as rewarding co-efficient wise.....money wise obviously not

In the short term getting doing well in Europa would maybe get us more points but CL mean more money, which means better players, which means better results in Europe(hopefully).

As much as I hate Hearts(well their fans) I still wanted them to get a result last night. Other Scottish teams doing well makes our job a easier. Although I had £40 on Levante -1 so was happy Motherwell lost by two. Sack co-efficients when its money in your pocket.