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Why won't they

leave Roman alone?
I just watch on Al Jazeera that the Russian Government is trying to sap Roman of another $1b, it just doesn't seem fair?

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 31/8/12

I think you will find your club will not stand for mediocre achievements much longer, the inability to gain or retain class players and this may be the catalyst for the change.

Immoral is a bold accusation, one you cannot back up.

I accept that anyone who builds up such a fortune will have a selfish, ruthless aspect to their personality but that applies to anyone regardless of nationaility. Allegations are all well and good, like the recent case Roman fought and won, but anyone can make an allegation, even without evidence.

posted on 31/8/12

the inability to gain or retain class players and this may be the catalyst for the change.
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Then you clearly have no understanding of how Arsenal works. Our board is very content with our mediocrity, as long as we provide the CL booty money.

Usmanov will not be allowed to take full ownership of the club. I personally don't mind, but he won't.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 31/8/12

I understan well enough how Arsenal works but that model is not working.

Your coard may be happy with mediocrity as were your fans for a good few years. The cracks have been appearing for a couple of years and are in danger of becoming irrepairable without change. Ultimately the board may be forced into a situation they cannot escape from. Competition for European places is only getting more fierce.

posted on 31/8/12

The model is working fine so long as Wenger provides the top 4 places. I think you forget that we finished 3rd and Chelsea 6th.

The fans are not happy with Mediocrity. Don't think that for a minute. It's the board that is happy to skiv off millions of profits without investing in the first team.

And the board will not force a change. Not when Kroenke owns the majority of the shares and certainly ot while David Dein backs up Usmanov, who all the board member hate.

You are also forgetting that most of you were questioning your owner after a poor league campaign, before the CL win.

That all is beside the point. Abramovich maybe be ruthless, but he's also alleged to be involved in mega millions corruption deals and kick backs. Countless testimonies against him him have gone unheard by the Russian government, which suggest they are complicit too.

posted on 31/8/12

You are also forgetting that most of you were questioning your owner after a poor league campaign, before the CL win.

Now that is libel !

posted on 31/8/12

And pure BS

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 31/8/12

Serial, I said the fans WERE happy, not ARE.

Yes you finished 3rd and we 6th, we qualified by winning the CL something you haven't managed to do despite qualifying for the competition far longer than we have. However comparing our finished is irrelevant as our model is not Arsenals model, failing to qualify will be a major blow to the Arsenal model and could cause the catalyst for change.

Some Chelsea fans have and will continue to question Roman, that's fans for you.

As for allegations, I have siad my piece on them, anyone can make them, you don't even need evidence, suspicion or envy or jealousy is enough. You say the Russian Government has refused to hear some od these allegations. Twice they have been taken to other Judicial systems, including the one that was thrown out today by our system, are they also complicit in Russian corruption?

posted on 31/8/12

The case that was thrown out today had no chance of succeeding. None. Very little evidence. Plus the UK government doesn't want to get mixed up with the political shenanigans of Russia and it's Oligarchs.

You should know that Berezovsky (sp?) was very very friendly with Putin for many years until he had a major falling out with Putin, just after his election as president, and was promptly charged with many fraud related charges. The Russian government has been calling for his extradition from the UK ever since.

Berezovsky and Abramovich were very close. He even considered Roman as his son. They worked and made billions with each other.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 31/8/12

Serial, I know all that, from the fact that it had little chance of succeding to their previous relationship etc.

Every allegation has a story and a truth behind it. Are the UK government now running the judicial system, are we really that corrupt now?

posted on 31/8/12

Just don't pretend/argue that Roman isn't a crook

Isn't this libel ?

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Yup, under any of Sim v Stretch; Youssoupoff v MGM; and/or Parmiter v Coupland.

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