A lot of people on here our saying Liverpool have no chance at even the top 4 next season, but what un-biased reasons can you base that upon?
Not many.
You can't just slander a club without proper reasons to go with it.
Now, I would like this to be a proper debate with as little wumming as possible please!
Reasons...
posted on 18/7/11
Remember when we had Alonso, Gerrard, Reina and Masch,,,,we were a ONE man team; then they all left by 2 and suddenly they were world class!!! Always made me laugh that one!
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Haha yeah that is another one of these wums favourites. Meireles or Aquilani will be called World Class next if they leave.
posted on 18/7/11
Reina is world class and maybe Suarez (although it will be interesting to see how he does this season), Gerrard is no longer world class and is past his best. these 3 are stand out players but nobody else catches the eye unlike other teams.
Liverpool wont make top 4 with their current squad.
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Just like United should never have won the league and got to the Champions League final with their squad. But it happened, because they have got a great manager who can make the players feel 10 feet tall when they step out on the pitch. And we've got a manager who can do the same. So to dismiss us so easily to even make the top four as you have done is quite silly really.
posted on 18/7/11
"I think the only way Arsenal will finish 4th is if they sort out that gaping hole that is your defence. Fabregas and Nasri may stay, they may not, but it doesn't take away the fact that Arsenal are a great team going forward but a very poor team in defence."
See this is what I am talking about with you Liverpool fans. You think you are better than you are. Have you forgotten that you conceded more goals than us, not just in the league but every competition you participated in? You even conceded more Europa League goals than we did Champions League goals. You haven't strengthened your defence nor do you show any signs on doing so. The only player you seem to be linked with at the moment is Lee Cattermole (surprise surprise another talentless overrated Englishman).
Arsenal for large parts of last season were forced into playing Squillaci and Koscielny as their main partnership last season - both of them new to the PL. We played 5 different goalkeepers last season. 4 of our goalkeepers were out at different stages of the season with long term injuries. At one stage of the season 4 were out at the same time and we had to bring Lehmann out of retirement. Vermaelen played 4 league games in total last season - our best defender played only 4 times. And despite all this, we still conceded less goals than you. So why is it that Arsenal have a gaping hole in their defence whereas Liverpool have the best back 4 in the country? Oh yea, let me guess, you only let more goals in than us because one of the best defenders in England Daniel Agger is always injured? That's it isn't it?
posted on 18/7/11
We played 5 different goalkeepers last season.
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Who are all average in comparison to Reina.
Vermaelen played 4 league games in total last season - our best defender played only 4 times.
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Same could be said about Agger, who is better than Vermaelen, who Vermaelen is good he is not Agger. You also don't have another good CB next to him, like we do in Carragher. Please don't even start in thinking you have a better defence, its a wide known fact that Arsenals biggest problem is their defence, Wenger really needs to address it.
posted on 18/7/11
See this is what I am talking about with you Liverpool fans. You think you are better than you are. Have you forgotten that you conceded more goals than us, not just in the league but every competition you participated in? You even conceded more Europa League goals than we did Champions League goals. You haven't strengthened your defence nor do you show any signs on doing so. The only player you seem to be linked with at the moment is Lee Cattermole (surprise surprise another talentless overrated Englishman).
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It's no wonder people think you're so much of an idiot when you can't even get simple facts right. We conceded five Europa League goals, you conceded 11 Champions League goals. We also only conceded two goals in both the League Cup and FA Cup. Jeez.
posted on 18/7/11
In fact no, it was just one goal in the FA Cup!
posted on 18/7/11
Same could be said about Agger, who is better than Vermaelen, who Vermaelen is good he is not Agger. You also don't have another good CB next to him, like we do in Carragher. Please don't even start in thinking you have a better defence, its a wide known fact that Arsenals biggest problem is their defence, Wenger really needs to address it.
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posted on 18/7/11
I see you just conveniently avoided my posts
posted on 18/7/11
why do ulot bother with batmanu, let me lose on him.
posted on 18/7/11
I think pool spurs and le arsenal are all as good as each other at the moment and it will be a huge battle for fourth this year. However there are a couple of things that could tip it one way or the other:
Liverpool sign a decent centre back or left back
Arsenal keep both fabregas and nasri
Spurs buy a prolific goalscorer