the CL

I see us getting a result tonight, especially if the spanish doll doesnt' start

Juventus wil beat us imo. They've got too many sneaky smooth operators in their side who know exactly how to play a CL game. They will play the game at the pace they want and will know when to win a foul, when to slow the game down when to quicken it up. Experience beats youth in the CL and with our defensive problems at the moment and striker dilemma, its tough to see us getting a result.

talk about weak Champions

I wish I could call you weak CHAMPIONS too.

Heathen! Cazorla's stressed on the o. The accent on the 'a' is completely out of place and just plain wrong.

Mr C we've been very good in Europe the last 10 years. I'd say that we can hand them the initiative, sit back and try to nick a couple on the counter. A return to the good old days

TCW This is a different team now. Not the same team we had previously.

Yeah, as City have shown in Europe (albeit in horrible groups) sometimes the club matters as much as the players.

True, the club badge carries a lot of weight, but you can hardly ignore Juve's European history either.

That said, and despite the changes from last year to this, most of Chelsea's squad are reigning European champions, and that experience is worth as much or more as any Juve can bring to the table imo. Juve have the home advantage, but Chelsea are more than used to playing in hostile environments; it could even play into Chelsea's hands if you choose to sit tight and look to hit Juve on the counter.

Very hard game to call imo, I can't even discount a lopsided result on either side, though I imagine it'll be tight.