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Ying and yang?

With all the success that forest and derby have had over the years. Dare I say it - we were a bit too successful.
How far we have fallen since has been an incredibly bitter pill for us to swallow. But, you can imagine on the night of the SECOND European cup final, some bloke from strelly saying his prayers before kick off - "I don't care if we're really really rubbish for the next 30 years... Just please, let us win the European cup for a second successive time" .... And since his wish was granted. Yes we've not quite been at the races.

I bet many derby fans have had a similar feeling. Thinking their prayers had been answered. Please let us not be the worst team in history.... Enter QPR!!!! Yeahay we're saved.

Enter 'arry like a pantomime villain ( boo hisssss)....
Oh būgger.
Maybe next year.

posted on 16/12/12

Hoons & Sutton

Is it good financial sense to rent a house or own it?

posted on 17/12/12

Iwas

Even if they owned the house they would more than likely give it away for free anyway when it was time to remortgage

posted on 17/12/12

Iwas, Is it good sense to rush into buying a house when you have time to have a good look at what is in the market?

comment by Hoons (U5327)

posted on 17/12/12


Iwas .... entirely depends upon the circumstances

Fact of the day .. About 85% of the population of Europe's strongest economy, Germany, rent their home.

comment by Peeder (U1684)

posted on 17/12/12

Fact of the day part 2 - Hoons doesnt know his facts!

45% of homes in Germany are owner-occupied, one of the lowest rates in Europe. This compares with 70% in the UK.

But, in the old West Germany, owner occupier rates are 60%, so not a lot different from ours after all. The figure is skewed by East Germany only having 13% owner occupation (as opposed to Russian occupation which is why its so low in the first place - why own
a property when the state could take it off you at will?)


comment by Hoons (U5327)

posted on 17/12/12

I was going off reported data for two cities in particular and applying this to the remainder of the country. My bad

posted on 17/12/12

Property is theft. - Proudhon

superfluum quod tenes tu furaris - Saint Ambrose.

posted on 17/12/12

That market is costing you an over-inflated fortune to have a look at. You are going to fall foul of the FFP rules that you signed up to. If you don't get promotion you could face a transfer embargo then the market won't even be available to you.

comment by (U14988)

posted on 17/12/12

Peeder and Hoons, I couldn't let the property ownership discussion go, as I am bit boring. Peeder, I don't get your maths? I believe East Germany is less than 20% of the total in Germany, and so cannot explain the difference as you have it. On your numbers, using basic maths, I get West Germany to have to equal 52% (not 60%). Can you show your workings as they don't make sense? - Plus it has been recorded in may studies that the Germans and French rent much more than the UK (though that is slowly changing)?
(zzzzz, Sorry, just bored myself)

posted on 18/12/12

The Germans have always favoured renting over ownership. I think it's to do with being able to move fast if you want to start a blitzkreig

also, having worked a lot in Germany, you can buy huge houses in the East fro next to nowt nowadays. Not being an economist, I'm not sure what that means, other than everybody buggered off West when the wall came down.

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