Bates notes

"Okay, but surely the point of outsourcing is to lower costs as otherwise you'd keep it in house.

Thus meaning more money to spend on players. But instead of addressing this part of the argument most fans have he just rubbishes the statistic"
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I'm not sure how entirely accurate the first sentence is, but assuming it was, hypothetically, then you're pretty much proving his point.

I'm not really sure what you're getting at.

"So what's his arguement for why it has been so low for the past few years

The guy is utter s c um"
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Maybe. It doesn't alter the fact that clubs aren't necessarily directly comparable based on turnover.

Sol

He twists everything in his favour

The wages are way lower than anyone else in comparison to wags

The point I'm trying to make is that fans argue we could spend more on player wages (hence keeping our better players - Snoddy, Howson, Gradel, Beckford... the list goes on) because our wages to turnover ratio is so much lower than everyone elses

His response is to say that the statistic doesn't mean anything, but the argument doesn't take away from the fact that we have better revenue streams - merchandising - than most other clubs in the Championship

And added to this by outsourcing catering we free up more money to spend because it's presumably more cost efficient to outsource than keep it in house

It's typical spin from Bates who clearly still has influence for at least the remainder of this season. His comments are designed to dampen down the very speculation he has served to promote. Talk of transfer targets whilst tickets need selling and then as the window approaches, there's nowt in the bank to pay for players.

Happens every season, predictable bluff and nonsense.

"because our wages to turnover ratio is so much lower than everyone elses"

"And added to this by outsourcing catering we free up more money to spend because it's presumably more cost efficient to outsource than keep it in house"
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But you're reducing your revenue streams by outsourcing the catering, therefore the wage to turnover ratio will increase. Regardless of whether or not outsourcing "frees up more money."


Liw,

I'm not saying this justifies the amount we spend on wages. But there is a valid point there.

Sol, only valid if he applied an even hand to all matters. Remember last season when he told everyone that there were funds for new players only to say a few weeks later, after no activity, that we'd actually exceeded the budget and we weren't able to spend.

He's inconsistent at best and an out and out liar at worst. Can't be trusted. He'll say whatever suits the audience and occasion.

Stevie,

I'm not defending his tenure. I'm just saying there is a valid point regarding the wage / turnover ratio. What Bates did or didn't say last season is irrelevant.

Sol it won't push up the percentage by a couple of points at the most.

What about last year and year before

Not irrelevant at all. One could argue all his comments are valid points. There's a theme here. Most of what he says is spin. Most of what he says, he says to justify his actions, past and present and possibly in the future. The wage to turnover argument is fine but he distorts it.