Time to establish loyalties here

and how did I lose the debate TUX? any mind right up to elite performance can be affected by the slightest of things, these days, a driver has to worry about enough, and when it comes to their own team principle who is meant to fight in their corner or for a relative cause, turns around and dismisses the chances of a win of a grand prix having any affect, its going to play on the drivers mind. TUX, I'm sorry but you have put no reason into your little input there.

and as for Martial Artist, you say that as if its not enough to worry about, a driver when he is driving around the track has to worry about the braking zones, clutch points and gears, thats it on the track - unless his engineer tells him to slow down a bit to save fuel/tires. off the track its all PR work e.g. Hamilton & Button's photo shoot, and Alonso's fiat advert.

they have enough to worry about, even when drivers such as Hamilton expressed their disappointment with over exhaustion, then their own boss turns around and says the man they are trying to beat is pretty much unbeatable.

Don't sit there and tell me that elite sports performers are immune to the slightest of distractions and comments. Vettel in front of his home crowd? Sutil's drop in performance after the assault allegations? more importantly and slightly more relevant, MASSA after last years German grand prix - his performance was severely smashed when he found out his own team boss wasn't pretty much against him.

Whitmarsh is the new Legard for some, he cannot do right, end of.
But the fans who have been around long enough will take no notice.

OK, so Vettel had a "bad" (HA!, Michael Schumacher would have liked that bad a race!) German GP.

So what? There is one a year. Personally I think it has nothing to do with pressure, just a combination of circs.
Had it been hot the Ferrari's and Red Bull's would have been specks on the horizon.

Credit Hamilton and Button with the sense to know the truth for themselves. Considering where they are in the world, they most probably DO have that level of intelligence.
A team chief giving a load of sycophantic bull is worth nothing.

Twitmarsh is a pathetic excuse of a team principal, he is so blinded by his hatred towards Hamilton, that he can't see the bigger picture, that Hamilton's success equates to his success. These current rants from him are doing his team no favours at all, he should be constantly harrassing the opposition with his usual rhetoric full of hot air!

he is so blinded by his hatred towards Hamilton
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Ok, I have to know. Where the hell are you getting this vibe that Whitmarsh hates Hamilton?

Is it because Button has been allowed to win races, or is it because Hamilton hasn't dominated every single race he's been in?

I have to agree with TallAndUseless here Im afraid. I never expected quite a dim response from you tsheporam.

Though on your side I will argue that my reason for a bit of a dark touch on Whitmarsh is because he never seems to make the right choices at the right time, and some comments of his are a bit too "corporate" and blank.

greg

i still dont have the foggiest clue where you are coming from with " braking points , clutch points and gears , etc " and what it has got to do with MW very insignificant comment about vettel ,

as i said do you seriously think world class drivers such as button , hamilton , alonso , will give a single solitary rats crap
about a very insignificant throw away comment by a team principle about a another driver whilst the adrenaline is running neat thru there veins and they are concentrating 110 % on winning the hungaoring GP whilst whizzing round hungary at a zillion miles an hour --,

and this single solitary throw away comment is going to affect there respective performances which in effect means going slower -
sorry mate i can never agree with you on this one -

and how did I lose the debate TUX?
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Greg bud. It's my opinion that 'champions' are born, not 'bred'. Those who reach the pinnacle would reach it whatever the circumstances and whatever the career and CERTAINLY without the 'help' of the recently born 'sports pychology' brigade! How did the sportsmen of yesteryear ever manage?!!!!!

maybe they didn't TUX? Sports Psychology doesn't always just apply to sport, it applies to every day life. I suggest you study it, you will obviously learn a lot when you read about suggested methods, theories and advancements when you understand what you read. Mainly because they are tried, tested and verified methods of measuring sports performance. My question here looks directly at the Coping abilities of elite athletes.
and as for Martial Artist - in order for a driver to get around the track in the fastest time possible, they have to consider those things at each and every turn and part of the track, leading to my question. "Do they really need their own team manager throwing comments like that out in public when they already have enough to deal with on track".

maybe they didn't TUX? Sports Psychology doesn't always just apply to sport, it applies to every day life. I suggest you study it,
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I suggest you stop presuming i need it bud.

greg

as i said - do you seriously think one insignificant vague comment is going to make worldclass drivers perform slower --

think about it greg
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