What if anything will make you a wenger out fan?
posted on 21/1/13
I support Arsenal Wenger, no budging here.
posted on 21/1/13
Ooh, let me see.....
A new owner and a new board. That would be nice.
Without that, any replacement will, I suspect, be a worse long term manager than the current incumbent.
Why? Surely the answer is obvious, and it comes down to something that really isn't known, that being the old chestnut of, 'Is Wenger having his financial hands tied?'
If he isn't, then I would say that after a couple of seasons in which the team has struggled badly, any board of any business that's awake and knowledgable would get rid, so why hasn't that happened?
If he does have limited spending power, or if the talent he thinks the club needs isn't out there for reasonable money, what, I ask you, is going to change with a new face in the manager's seat?
posted on 21/1/13
What if anything will make you a wenger in fan?
I bet our answers are the same
posted on 21/1/13
comment by Oscandwarf (U3677)
posted 1 minute ago
Ooh, let me see.....
A new owner and a new board. That would be nice.
Without that, any replacement will, I suspect, be a worse long term manager than the current incumbent.
Why? Surely the answer is obvious, and it comes down to something that really isn't known, that being the old chestnut of, 'Is Wenger having his financial hands tied?'
If he isn't, then I would say that after a couple of seasons in which the team has struggled badly, any board of any business that's awake and knowledgable would get rid, so why hasn't that happened?
If he does have limited spending power, or if the talent he thinks the club needs isn't out there for reasonable money, what, I ask you, is going to change with a new face in the manager's seat?
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Finally some common sense
posted on 21/1/13
I agree....I think the Board is hiding behind Wenger, they pay him loads to take the flack while they are lining their pockets......They say to us 'there's £70 Mil to spend' then tell Wenger 'But don't spend it'.
As previously stated above, do you really reckon any Board will look at the last 8 years of decline and will allow it to continue if they are truely offering transfer funds ?.
The Board is the problem, not Wenger. Yes Wenger can be stubborn and do mistakes, but so does every manager on the planet.
People compare Moyes to Wenger, but Wenger has won more then Moyes has and has gotten us in the top 4 every season. No one moans at Moyes signings. If he gets 1 good player people rave.....but no one seems to look at his failures.......Wengers failures are more prominent.
Also us fans are too critical....
Giroud is now rubbish............FFS its his 1st season....give him a chance...he is in double figures for this season......not bad for his 1st and we are just half way through.
Cazorla has been a marvel.....I know he has faded lately but he has talent.
Podolski.......he is scoring goals...but never gets the credit.
Wenger also has secured our young British Talent.....
Walcott, Wilshere, Jenkinson, OX, Ramsey and Gibbs.
For years we have screamed for a British backbone. Now we have it andno one cheered when he tied all 6 to long term contracts this season.....all we moan about is RVP going.....
I also look at the players we did lose....
Cole - He went for money......I agree we missed him alot but not Wengers fault that the might of Chelsea spending took him
Flamini - never knew why we raved about him. He was good but not class as leaving us proved
Adebayor - again greedy...good riddance
Fabregas - How can any manager stop someone from playing for a team they supported and also going home. I miss Fabs but what could Wenger do ?
Nasri - 3 month wonder in 8 months of the season and nothing before. What do we do when he goes ?....moan
Song - I liked Song, but again the lure of Barcelona is hard to stop any player.
RVP - less said about that..........
We moan at Wenger but at the end of the day his hands where tied with most of the selling......besides RVP, Cole and Song all the others had nothing to offer Arsenal.
But 3 players in 8 years (Please do not bring Henry and Vieira in...both gave their heart to Arsenal and we sold them at the correct time) is not as bad as people seem to suggest.....
posted on 21/1/13
i am arsenal fan not wenger in fan or wenger out fan. wenger still the best man
posted on 21/1/13
Oscanwolf and back to my old user name you have missed one key fact. Arsenal are the most profitable company in the league. But maybe you have too much confidence that Wenger will always get top 4.
posted on 21/1/13
I mean maybe they* is it profitable for them to spend and get 2nd or not spend and get 4th. This is your answer
posted on 21/1/13
Whatever you say about the owners, they are businessmen with brands to protect do you really think they would say there's lots of money available then behind closed doors say to Wenger don't spend anything
posted on 21/1/13
......yes I do