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Our Defence

Just as a thought, albeit, a bit late in day.
Has it not entered ones mind that if we are so bad, (zone marking), why we have not asked Tony Adams to come and give some pointers to what we jokingly call our defence.
Yes know he Manages a team some distance away, but maybe this is because no one asked him, and his expertise would be invaluable.
We were happy to have people like Henry give pointers to our strikers, (assume he was asked?), whilst training with us.
Don't all scream at the same time.

comment by BO$$™ (U6401)

posted on 29/1/13

I'd rather we brought bk Martin Keown. He is more in touch with defending in the era.

posted on 29/1/13

Helenio Herrera claimed that players are 'monuments of presumptuousness...they don't know how to teach what they naturally did with such grace'

I think this is more true in terms of teaching technique as opposed to something more intellectual like tactical positioning, but evidence still seems to suggest that this may be true in Adams' case; none of the teams he has managed have been renowned for having a strong defence.

posted on 29/1/13

We need Lauren in there.

Solid as a rock and knew how to wind players up.

posted on 29/1/13

Adams Keown etc played a variation of Zonal.
To be fair, there's nothing wrong with zonal marking. It works very well for a lot of teams.

posted on 29/1/13

Yeah Keown would make a lot more sense.
Adams was a truly great player but times have changed... And his brain appears to have melted!

comment by Herbie (U7136)

posted on 29/1/13

"Helenio Herrera claimed that players are monuments of presumptuousness...they don't know how to teach what they naturally did with such grace"
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And that's part of what made Herrera such an observational superpower. I've long been of this particular wave of thinking and believe it's why quite a lot of the best coaches in the game - and in the world of sport full stop - had unremarkable playing careers as it is easier for them to understand why something may not come as naturally as it did for they.

I believe this theory is true in a fair few disciplines in life.

posted on 29/1/13

"And that's part of what made Herrera such an observational superpower. I've long been of this particular wave of thinking and believe it's why quite a lot of the best coaches in the game - and in the world of sport full stop - had unremarkable playing careers as it is easier for them to understand why something may not come as naturally as it did for they."

Exactly

posted on 29/1/13

We have Steve Bould already, who was a better defender than either Adams or Keown.

posted on 29/1/13

Hello??
We have Steve Bould and we still concede useless goals.

We have changed personnel yer we still concede useless goals;.
Whoever we bring in doesn't matter. We will still concede useless goals until the overall method is ammended

comment by Herbie (U7136)

posted on 29/1/13

"We have changed personnel yer we still concede useless goals;.
Whoever we bring in doesn't matter. We will still concede useless goals until the overall method is ammended"
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As long as Wenger is manager the method will never be changed as the failing is with mentality and priority. There's no pride in the clean sheet at the club - or certainly not anywhere near as much pride as there is in adhering to a philosophy that has long since become an obsession.

Until a similar sense of pride is levelled with defending the goal then the mistakes, concentration lapses and general lasse faire attitude to the game's "darker arts" (and this will never happen under Wenger) then we can forget ever creating any kind of sustained solidity.

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