Bayern Munich aren't overrated.

more mistakes, i swear i'm not drunk

Just to kill a myth, German stadiums are not always full at all and the reason tickets cost less than over here is due to the infrastructure and surrounding area to the stadia is supported by local councils so their council tax is massive instead.

the people who reckon they're a better side than real or barca. and there are people on here who think that.

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It would be useful if you could identify the posters who have said this instead of just generalising because I haven't seen one person who have said that Bayern are a better side than either Barcelona or Real Madrid, myself included and I do rate this Bayern team highly as do I Dortmund and you know I do watch a lot of these two in the Bundesliga.

IMHO, Barcelona are still the team to beat, regardless if people think Madrid have now somehow "got their number".

If Barcelona play like we all know they can play, there's IMO not a team on earth who can deal with them and handle the speed in which they pass the ball or the intensity in which they press the opposition.

I would put Barcelona in a bracket of their own, followed in a 2nd bracket by the likes of Madrid, ourselves and Bayern because all of those teams are capable of beating each other. I'm a little hesitant on putting Dortmund in there even though I know how good they can be because although they've beaten Madrid already this season and drawn with them, they've not faced one of the better sides in the knockout rounds and the same would apply to the current Juventus team also so it would be good to see both of those sides properly tested in the latter rounds.

Bayern are no doubt an excellent side. Tonight's performance was not a true reflection of them. They were far from convincing but yet still dominated an Arsenal side who took what little chances they had and defended superbly. I believe they're fully capable of beating most teams as I've already said but not a Barcelona team in full flow but that's nothing to be ashamed of and that doesn't mean they're not an excellent side or are overrated.

They've swept aside almost all before them in the Bundesliga this season and German domestic football in general. They beat Arsenal convincingly at the Emirates and if hadn't have been for what can only be described as a pathetic attitude tonight, I believe they would've beaten Arsenal again.

can't argue with that red side.

i would say that after arsenal scored in the first leg a better side than arsenal would have gone on to score more in that tie.

but agreed about barca. going to take a lot to stop them

Red Sides comments are spot on. Bayern are a brilliant team but everyone understands when Barca get it right like on Tuesday there isn't another team on the planet who come close.

There's a reason Pep decided to join Bayern, they're probably the closest team to Barca on the planet in more ways than one.

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not easily mate and its comments like that which make me think theyre overrated.

how are they easily better than United, ac milan, juventus, dortmund or even Malaga or Chelsea who they found hard to beat on their own ground last season?

they are a good team but theyve done absolutely nothing to show that they deserve the mythical title of 'easily' third best team in europe.

Rob your a muppet.

Bayern have lost 1 game all season in the league, they have been immense. Do you really think if Dortmund didnt 'focus on the cl' (which is rubbish) that they would get anywhere near them?

This is a team that consistently make the semi final stage of the champions league...and that somehow makes them overrated!?

Bayern are a very strong side. But to say they are stronger than Barca would be fantasy.

Real are not as strong as people think, so Bayern can be compared to them.

This was a game where Bayern took their foot of the gas but Arsenal simply couldn't get through.

Oddly, I didn want Arsenal to some how sneak through so the people spunking off to Bayern could be laughed at. But at least this way we don't have to take the carp from the gooners.