I've always maintained that a real football fan loves the club they support far more than the country. And the other day I said to my mate that I would rather, hands down absolutely no contest, arsenal won the carling cup than England won the world cup. He is a man utd fan and he could not comprehend this.
What do you guys reckon? Does our trophy drought have something to do with my attitude? Is there any situation where you would care more about England than Arsenal? Am I right in thinking that the vast majority of football fans care significantly more about their club?
Arsenal or England
posted on 27/3/13
If it's any consolation i.wish.arshavin.was.my.dad, I really do not care about England. If they never qualified for another competition I would be slightly happier as it would mean our players get a little more rest.
posted on 27/3/13
I still don't think a pathetic CC trophy is anything over England winning the World Cup. A league or CL, yeah. But not a second tier cup!
posted on 27/3/13
Its acceptable if its due to a bad blip in your teams form i.wish.
Yet I think people who are actively Anyone But England, yet support a PL team should GTFO. Bunch of plastics.
posted on 27/3/13
Not plastic edinspur, just not patriotic or nationalistic. And if you look at England objectively, they are a ruddy awful team.
posted on 27/3/13
Arsenal won the World Cup in 1998.
posted on 27/3/13
They are awful but I still want them to do well. Nationalistic isnt the term I would use to describe them.
I dont mind people who dont care about internationals, and would rather games werent played throughout the season. But people who actively want England to do badly?! Pfft
posted on 27/3/13
Okay Edinspur, put it this way.
If I didn't have to hear about them or have any Arsenal players play for them it wouldn't bother me if England did well. As it stands I think that France, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, Brazil, Argentina etc are all preferable to England considering the styles they play.
posted on 27/3/13
In truth I can seperate the 2. Its quite easy but then again I do tend to chear England on if Arsenal players are in the team.....but I do not chear another country (i.e France a few years back....) when we had majority of players in their team.
But if Arsenal had to play England I would back Arsenal all the way......
I love my country but love Arsenal just a tad more.....
posted on 27/3/13
Anyway watching England ATM is like watching Arsenal.....just cannot seem to win games when they should do..................
posted on 27/3/13
Arsenal winning the champions league and England winning the world cup are just as rare/unlikely so both would be equally amazing.
These internationals are very tedious, qualifications and friendlies... but some of my greatest footballing memories come from world cups and euros. I just love the amount of football they pack into one month, its the best thing about football imo, so supporting England edges it.