Ince gossip!!!
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posted on 4/4/13
Swapping Pearson for Ince would be, at best, a sideways move. Ince has one promotion from League 2 to shout about and very little else. And, most importantly, we would have the same issue with Ince that we do with Pearson - he has never achieved promotion to the Premier League. Next season we need an experienced manager who has achieved promotion, not a young, up-and-coming guy who MIGHT be a success. Added to that will be the likely need to rebuild the squad as I suspect we will lose many players due to FFP, with Nugent, Schmeichel and Konch at the front of the queue. My hope is that Hull don't go up and we can nab Steve Bruce from them. If not, somebody like Coyle or McDermott. Anyone but Pearson, or Ince, or any other inexperienced, unproven punt.
posted on 4/4/13
Ah Foxello - you are indeed describing Warnock!
posted on 4/4/13
Foxello, it's very difficult to find someone who:
a) Has experience getting a team promoted to the Premier League;
b) Has not since become a failure; (I'm sure you don't want Peter Reid or Roy Keane)
c) Is available.
There are very few around like that - McDermott is perhaps the obvious one, although Coyle is definitely pushing at (b). Steve Bruce was as well, but has managed to re-energise.
Even so, there are many teams that have gone up in recent times with managers who have not experienced promotion from this league before - Reading, Southampton, Swansea, Norwich, West Brom and Newcastle all off the top of my head. Plus Cardiff have been top of the league for most of the season, again under a manager who hasn't achieved promotion from this league before.
Experience of getting promoted is not a prerequisite. What we're looking for is quality, in whatever form that comes.
posted on 4/4/13
You're right, it is very difficult to find a manager who has achieved promotion and is available right now. Which makes the fact that there are a few candidates that fits that criteria available at this very moment all the more desirable.
Out of those currently out of work, and who fit the criteria, my first choice would be Coyle, my second choice would be Di Matteo and third McDermott. If I thought there was the slightest chance of getting O'Neill, he'd blow the 3 of them out of the water, though.
You do make a valid point regarding inexperienced managers who have achieved promotion. However, except the latter two, none of those teams had immediate expectations of a promotion. Newcastle had the strongest squad in Championship history, and WBA were perennial automatic promotion chasers. Malky Mackay inherited a very strong squad and has added well to it. But for a club with such a burning desire for promotion, like ours, I think we need a manager with a proven track record of achieving success from this league. Unfortunately, Pearson has failed to show he's got the necessary skills to achieve this, albeit with a good squad left from Sven and a very substancial budget.
As for Warnock, he'd be my 4th choice of available managers, but I'm not sure he has the fight for another promotion push. My worry with Keane would not be so much his ability, but rather his managerial style.
posted on 4/4/13
I think we are all getting rather desperate and going round in circles.We dont know who we will get or if anyone at all yet.Sad thing is there is a lot of dross to choose from and we will never all agree , same as with Pearson.
Martin O, neill i believe is sadly not in running due to family illness.
posted on 4/4/13
I still can't agree with you and John Gee's opinion that Sven's squad was strong - many still look either overrated or mentally weak to me and have not gone on to better things.
Still, I'd be interested to know why you put Coyle ahead of Di Matteo and McDermott - I can't believe we could get Di Matteo, but if we could I'd sign him up in a shot given the football his teams have played and the results he's got (albeit with long periods of poor form as well). McDermott seems like a very solid choice, having created a Reading side that really dominated matches in the Championship, yet didn't get much if any resources to mount a successful stand against relegation this season. However Coyle, as I see him, looked like the next big thing a couple of seasons back but really fell apart at Bolton both in quality of football and results to the point where the fans couldn't wait to see the back of him. Maybe he would be good for a new challenge like Steve Bruce, but surely Di Matteo or McDermott would be far higher on the list?
posted on 4/4/13
"comment by thorneyfox (U5061)
posted 10 minutes ago
I think we are all getting rather desperate and going round in circles."
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posted on 4/4/13
Ince...............no thanks, not good enough.
Get John Sitton in............................he'll sought us out!
posted on 5/4/13
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posted on 5/4/13
This rumour was started in the Daily Mirror as they had to fill some space. I guess Paul Ince's name sprang to mind as Blackpool have been supplying clubs with managers for a while now.