How many points after 4 games in?

*added championship players.

Realistically 2 points, although I think that could be as high as 5 without getting delusional
QPR - draw, we weren't great away from home last season, and they'll be up for it first game. Although we should go in with the mindset of winning the game

City - Probably a defeat, but we could catch them cold at the beginning of the season, first game at home and all that

Liverpool - It;s Liverpool, so probably another late defeat by the odd goal

United - Draw. They always start slow so I'd rather play them then

I expect Norwich, Sunderland and WBA down there early on due to their starts

I think if we could remain unbeaten after the first 7 games, we are set for a European tour.

4 points from the first 4 games. I'm guessing we'll beat QPR and pick up another point against Liverpool.

But what the he'll do I know?

*hell

The first 7 games are horrible

In truth, I would be happy with 6 points from the first 7 games. We must take point off Swansea and Norwich.

Anything else on top of that is a bonus. I don't think we can go saying we can take even 1 point off the likes of City, United, Arsenal or Chelsea.

Recently, form shows that we won't take any points from Chelsea or City.

Hang on.

I mean QPR and Norwich

I would say we can get at least 5 points. Win at QPR and draws against City and United. As people have said we always get unlucky against Liverpool. So I would say a minimum of 5 points but that we are capable of beating either City or United as City can be inconsistent and United always start slow.

And just to wind you all up I'm currently sat in sunny Menorca with 30°C temperatures and not a cloud in the sky!

crackin flags in bolton

36°C here, my friend!