Chelsea fans torres haters

In that instance we should have him sit back. Although he does make some great runs into the box when the ball is being held up. His composure in front of goal has improved as well.

His passing isn't the greatest but that's not his game is it? We have yet to see how Jose will use these players. I have a feeling everyone will get their fair shot. If it happens that Ramires doesn't make it then fair enough. But he has been so huge for us all throughout the past couple of seasons I cannot see him fading away.

Yep new start with every player. Will be interesting to see what he does with our players and what our first XI will be. He might have a few surprises for us

Mr C I'm counting on it

Anyway thanks for kinda saying something nice about Ramires

VICTORY!!!

I dont just say it to wind anyone up. Sometimes I do but you know when im doing that but for the most part its what I believe. I try to be fair with every player to be honest. Not just a Ramires thing but I do have a short fuse when it comes to things like controlling the ball properly. You should have seen me with Anelka. He used to regularly lose the ball and it wound me up no end.

I remember those days well. I think at one point you made a voodoo doll of Anelka and kept trying to pull out his silver tooth.

Ramires has improved tenfold if you look at his control, passing and yes even his balance since he came to us. Not to me took how vital his ability to get back and break up plays is to us when players like Luiz and Mikel/Lampard will not do more than a jog when there is a fast break on us. IMO there is just way more positive than negative. He is also a big game player.

Someone who loves Torres as much as I do. Bring him back please

soccer?lol.

champion, look pal i take offence to your view that those of us who are fed up with Torres and his poor game,which is clearly effecting the way we play , should go and find another team to support.

IVE been supporting CFC since i was 10 yrs old over 40 yrs, im a season ticket holder and do go to away european nights, whilst having a job which takes me abroad on a monthly basis, this means at times i have to make a lot of effort to get to stamford bridge.

So i dont really know what effort you make to follow CFC ,but i do every season ,and feel that its cheeky to be told to go and follow another club becuase you dont really make much effort , which is clear by your comments.

The club are woefully short of strikers this season, but who is suggesting he walk out tomorrow & who is expecting the club to repeat the same poor judgement call when putting the squad together next season ?

You !

Cappelo?

Ifarka well said. Its depressing watching us with Torres nowadays. Rather than be surprised when he misses a chance or an open goal, we're surprised when he manages to find the net. The cup wins dont help much. I'd rather he left. I dont hate Torres although I might have said some comments in the past which make it look like I hate him. I feel sorry for him that he's a shadow of what he was but honestly, watching him play for us is mentally draining. He should go because its a transfer that's gone horribly wrong. despite the trophies we've won with him here.

Torres offers moments of what was but hours of what isn't, Europa League is his level right now - the EPL and CL are beyond him if there is an opportunity for someone else to be stuck paying his wages for the next 3 years we should take it. He will not get better with age, and we all know that as soon as a high caliber striker is signed and he needs to sit on the bench - he will start making comments to the media about his role.