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4 different managers yet nothing's changed

I came across this old article about Englands 2002 World Cup performances, and I've come to a startling realization that nothing much has changed since then. Reading the comments about Englands style of play is almost identical to how people are describing it now. Almost 11 years on and we are still playing the same way, long balls and happy to surrender the ball for most of the game, this is the England we have come to now and loathe. There have been four different managers since that 2002 World Cup yet nothing has changed, what do you think this lack decent football is down to? It's certainly not the managers because they have come and gone and yet there has been no change in the way England play.

I've lost any sort of hope in the national team winning anything for at least the next 10 years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/worldcup2002/hi/sports_talk/newsid_1921000/1921893.stm

posted on 31/5/13

Against Ireland our two best players were carrick and lampard. Some of the passes and movement they had in the middle was great. But sadly we seem to love to play carp quick players rather than keep the ball. Walcott, chamberlain, Sturridge are all terrible and can keep the ball.

posted on 31/5/13

And vidic that's nonsense about scholes who only had a couple good years if that for England and can only do what he does In a top side like utd

posted on 31/5/13

And vidic that's nonsense about scholes who only had a couple good years if that for England

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Yes, because the numpty Sven moved him out to the left.

There is a very good reason why Zidane admired Scholes and Sven wasted it.

posted on 31/5/13

Against Ireland our two best players were carrick and lampard. Some of the passes and movement they had in the middle was great. But sadly we seem to love to play carp quick players rather than keep the ball. Walcott, chamberlain, Sturridge are all terrible and can keep the ball.
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Rubbish. Carrick and Lampard couldn't see the right passes if you drew a map for them. The only one who could utilise our strengths was Rooney.

posted on 31/5/13

Scholes only had a couple of good years for England?



There goes the opinion of somebody who knows nothing about Football. Apart from the 2-3 game stupid experiment on the left wing, I don't remember Scholesy ever having a bad game for England.

Best midfielder this country has ever produced in my opinion and a lot of VERY famous players opinions too.

posted on 31/5/13

Lol i would watch the game again if I were u.
Lampard over the top to Rooney when Rooney tried some stupid volley.
Carrick into rooneys feet time and time again. Lampard into the channels constantly for Walcott and chamberlain to mess up. They were running the show.
If we had a decent right back and a couple decent wide men we would be a much better team.

posted on 31/5/13

You say I know nothing about football when I say something about scholes who I think was a fantastic player. And then say you think he's the best player England have ever produced and u expect to be unbiased and have a conversation about him? Lol

posted on 31/5/13

The strange thing is that during Japan/Korea 2002 England produced the best display i've seen from our country against Argentina in the group stages.

We actually kept possession of the ball, not just knocking it around amongst the keeper and centre backs but going into midfield and in the attacking third, they had a couple of chances but so did we. It was a really mature display, similar to the performance in Rome in 1998, but we won.

I don't know why England produce these types of technical, good quality performances every know and again and don't set up to play that way all time.

The first i heard about "overhauling grass roots football" came after the horrendous showing in Euro 2000, some 13 years ago, about the same time Germany decided to stop having meetings and talking about a radical change and actually got on and id something about it!

posted on 31/5/13

- Our teams are consistently in or around the top ten in the world and on average end up in the top 8 or 16 in the summer tournaments. That's not all that bad. Expectations are too high.
- Despite lacking the cornucopia of great players that certain countries possess, we do regularly produce players who are good enough to play a key role in the world's best club sides. It's just that several other countries have more of them.
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And why do those countries consistently have more of them? Clearly that points to a problem that needs solving.

Expectations are not too high. Performances and coaching are consistently too poor.

posted on 1/6/13

I know his views were not to everyone's taste but I thought the best England have looked in ages was during the time Hoddle was manager.

As a technical player himself who probably didn't get as many caps as he should he understood the emphasis on keeping the ball.

If I was English and wanted someone to look after the U21's then I would much prefer Hoddle to Pearce. Then again there are probably a few that would be preferrable to Pearce come to think of it.

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