Interesting points from Fawaz

SO'D did a great job cobbling a team together and got them playing well right from the off. However it seems that for some reason we were going backwards towards the end of his time here (except ironically his last game v Leeds). Really before the Wolves game away we were looking generally good with a few hiccups after that starting at Ipswich it was almost the opposite where we were generally poor with a couple of decent performances / results thrown in.
It would certainly seem that there was some serious bad blood between Marthur etc and Billy and maybe all of the bodged transfers with us failing to land targets was down to him trying to undermine Billy. If this was the case it is unforgivable because with a few additions (even in January) to the team that finished third the season before we would have had a great chance of going up the next season, did his scheming set us back three years.
The stadium sponsorship really excites me as this could bring in some serious money which will count towards what can be spent under FFP.
Also the showing of our games in the Middle East gives us another chance to raise cash in a very rich and relatively untapped market,

We can only guess whether SOD would have got us a top 6 spot or not.
Don't forget how tight the table was at the time he was sacked,2 losses on the bounce could have seen us drop 6 or 7 places down the table.

Ilko ...

Davies managed to get more points on the board than Clough did in the same time period running upto the end of the season

The sooner you all realise NLN is not the answer then you'll get the message

Clough in!

I'll ignore Ilko's sweeping generalisations about how ALL Forest fans think. Anyway, my point was who knows. BD did a great job at the start but it wasn't sustained. I don't blame him or think that means he did a bad job. My worry with him is that the short term goal is key whereas I was happy before that we were trying to build something. It may be that this is unrealistic, I'm impressed with the youth Derby play but it could be that this just results in other teams picking off your players while your team stays where it is. Maybe academies are a waste of time?

Lloyd, I'm not having a go per se about Davies but its no coincidence that he got rid of the reserves at Derby and Forest.

Youth development is the only way forward for Derby and whilst Will Hughes will ultimately be sold, it's been a pleasure watching him play this season and if it releases finds to help strengthen other areas then it has to be a good thing.

Sure I would like to see Derby go out and spend 2/3 million on players but I know that's not going to happen under the current regime so we have no alternative than to develop our youth team.

I like how Derby fans say Billy failed, after coming in in February and as Webbo said accrued a lot more points then NLN.

Also they think they Billy failed as well as he only got us to two playoffs in his two full seasons in charge yet NLN is doing an absolutely brilliant job by being there 5 seasons now and Derby have moved a grand total of about 6 places.

Deluded! Maybe you should get MA at Derby, you would be one happy deluded sheep family!

SBD calling anyone deluded is slightly hypocritical

SBS get a box of Kleenex or your mum will be angry

awwwww Mr Happy!

Also see Cstander is trying to use the same joke now from like 3 years ago.

I know Derby are behind us in terms of...... well pretty much everything but i didn't think it would take 3 years for you lot to spew out the same dross again and again

Least try and be creative!