And explains what I was trying to say the whole time
Most of it in the OP, see the first comment for the conclusion. Thoughts?
http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-xbox-engineer-explains-drm-and-microsofts-xbox-one-intentions
>The thing is we suck at telling the story. The whole point of the DRM switch from disc based to cloud based is to kill disc swapping, scratched discs, bringing discs to friends house, trade-ins for crap value with nothign going back to developers, and high game costs. If you want games cheaper then 59.99, you have to limit used games somehow. Steam's model requires a limited used game model.
>The thing is, the DRM is really really similar to steam... You can login anywhere and play your games, anyone in your house can play with the family xbox. The only diff is steam you have to sign in before playing, and Xbox does it automatically at night for you (once per 24 hours)
>It's a long tail strategy, just like steam. Steam had it's growing pains at the beginning with all it's drm crap as well. [...] For digital downloads steam had no real competition at the time, they were competing against boxed sales. At the time people were pretty irate about steam, (on 4chan too...) It was only once they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted crap
>Think about it, on steam you get a game for the true cost of the game, 5$-30$. On a console you have to pay for that PLUS any additional licenses for when you sell / trade / borrow / etc. If the developer / publisher can't get it on additional licenses (like steam), then they charge the first person more. [...] If we say "Hey publishers, you limit game to 39.99, we ensure every license transfer you get 10$, gamestop gets 20$" that is a decent model... Microsoft gets a license fee on first and subsequent game purchases, compared to just first now? That's a revenue increase.
>Competition is the best man, it helps drive both to new heights. See technology from the Cold War. If we had no USSR, we'd be way worse off today. TLDR: Bring it on Steam
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>Yeah we passed that around the office at Xbox. Most of us were like "Well played Sony, Well played". That being said they are just riding the hype train of ZOMG THEY ARE TRYING TO **** US FOR NO REASON. Without actually thinking about how convienent it would be for the majority of the time to not find that disc your brother didn't put back... [...] just simpleminded people not seeing the bigger picture. Some PS4 viral team made them all "U TOOK R DISCS" and they hiveminded.
>Everyone and their mother complains about how gamestop ***** them on their trade ins, getting 5$ for their used games. We come in trying to find a way to take money out of gamestop, and put some in developers and get you possibly cheaper games and everyone moans at MS. Well, if you want the @#$@ing from Gamestop, go play PS4.
>The goal is to move to digital downloads, but Gamestop, Walmart, Target, Amazon are KIND OF ENTRENCHED in the industry. They have a lot of power, and the shift has to be gradual. Long term goal is steam for consoles. [...] If you always want to stay with what you have, then keep current consoles, or a PS4. We're TRYING to move the industry forwards towards digital distribution... it'sa bumpy road
>Publishers have enourmous power. Microsoft is trying to balance between consumer delight, and publisher wishes. If we cave to far in either direction you have a non-starting product. WiiU goes too far to consumer, you have no 3rd party support to shake a stick at. PS4 is status-quo. XB1 is trying to push some things, at the expense of others. We have a vision, we'll see if it works in the coming years
>Living room transformation. We want to own the living room. Every living room TV with an XBox on input one. It's the thing that gives the signal to your TV, everything is secondary. The future, where games, TV, internet telephony, all that crap happens magically on some huge ass screen with hand / voice gestures... That's our goal.
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>Google TV + PS4 + Minority report level gestures, that combined with a sick second screen experience (which is really hot for TV, I know I know.. tv tv tv tv tv... but it's sick when you have it). Games will be the same, there are more exclusives to MS then PS atm, and Kinect 2 makes Kinect 1 look like a childs toy.
>By default it's on, listening for "Xbox On". You can turn it off tho, and turn the console like OFF off. OFF off is required for Germany / other countries that require it (no vampire appliances) [...] It has to be plugged in for the console to post. You can turn off everything it does from the settings. Think of it like airplane mode for the iPhone. You can't just unplug the cellular radio, but you can turn it off.
Anonymous Xbox Engineer explains DRM
posted on 15/6/13
people say that whenever I point out that playstation haven't made all thier negatives clear I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything, I'm also not trying to show any console is superior, I'm just offering counter arguments to your points where you haven't understood some bits
both will be incredibly similar, they shall be pretty much the same thing with the same restrictions baring the online thing, If you dont have online dont get an xbox. you are purely going on that video which was thier way of announcing you would have to pay for online from now on? Playstation have not said that 3rd party developers cannot charge. they shall.
posted on 15/6/13
you should watch what you say about xbox anyway, apparently the FBI and middle eastern terrorists use them to spy on you to learn what crisps you eat while playing fifa
posted on 15/6/13
How do you know they will charge?
posted on 15/6/13
"you should watch what you say about xbox anyway, apparently the FBI and middle eastern terrorists use them to spy on you to learn what crisps you eat while playing fifa"
LOL, that whole kinect thing is a joke anyway.
The way I see it is that the Xbox is certainly now worth the extra money.
posted on 15/6/13
*not worth
posted on 15/6/13
xbox will not charge for thier own games, they came out and said this. Sony also came out and said they will not charge for thier own games, they said nothing on 3rd party games
the reason they are charging is for 3rd party developers, the gaming industry needs the money and all the money goes back to them, they have control over thier games, they can charge if they want, if they charge on xbox they damn sure will charge on ps4 too.
I don't like that they are forcing people to buy the kinect with it, but if true what they say that its no longer a kids toy then it may be worth it in years to come. Ignore all the crap about it watching you
I'll be waiting a little while before buying either anyway
posted on 15/6/13
"Ignore all the crap about it watching you "
Only idiots believe this crap.
posted on 15/6/13
i eat prawn cocktail... does that make me a national threat?
posted on 15/6/13
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posted on 18/6/13
CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 days, 10 hours ago
i eat prawn cocktail... does that make me a national threat?
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