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Alonso to McLaren!

In the BBC transmission of the Italian Grand Prix qualifying Eddie Jordan seemed to think that Alonso had, "committed a sackable offence" with his comments to the team over the radio in Q3.

Ecclestone has even stuck his oar in.

Certainly the story is now gaining momentum.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/113090762586/alonso-slammed-stupid-ferrari-at-monza

Who knows, with his latest purchase of a cycling team perhaps we will see him on a 10 speed Claud Butler next season.

So who leaves McLaren?

Button or Perez?

posted on 7/9/13

Felipe and Nando out
Perez and Hulk in

comment by Welshy (U1348)

posted on 7/9/13

Raikkonen back to Ferrari if this happens?

Trying to think who won Ferrari's last Driver's Championship

comment by WTCBU (U13662)

posted on 7/9/13

The writing was on the wall several months ago. Ferrari have not given Alonso a car that was capable of winning. Alonso would have left anyway but now Ferrari would rather fire him than improve their team.

Schumacher went to Ferrari and realised what a symbolical outfit it was. A bunch of Italian spaghetti throwers that took 3 hour lunches knowing full well that the concorde agreement guaranteed that they still received more money than any other team.

Schumacher changed all that by insisting that they recruited talented British experts. Look what happened. Then Schumacher left and Ferrari went back to the thing they know best and hired a bunch of Italian spaghetti throwers and see what happens.

posted on 7/9/13

What's an Italian Spaghetti thrower? And what difference does the nationality make to throwers of pasta?

posted on 7/9/13

"And what difference does the nationality make to throwers of pasta?"

Enzo Ferrari himself insisted on hiring British designers (.....* left to join Ferrari in early 1981. At the time the Italian team were considered amongst the best engine builders in the sport, but amongst the worst chassis designers. Postlethwaite was selected personally by Enzo Ferrari to rectify this problem and by the following year everything was in place for success.) and that was how both Harvey Postlethwaite and John Barnard (.....**and the designer had been able to name his terms. Given a large sum of money by the team to set up a design office in Guildford in England, Barnard founded the Ferrari Guildford Technical Office in early 1988 and began work on returning Ferrari to regular winning...) ended up working for Ferrari.

Barnard was even allowed to have his deign studio in Surrey because he didn't want to move to Italy.
Enzo Ferrari as readily accepted the superiority of British chassis design as he did the superiority of Ferrari engine design.

BTW, Back in the early sixties Carrol Shelby was told that the difference between his team and the winning teams were the winners had British working for them, Shelby's response? "We gotta get some o' them long-haired Limeys".

Harvey Postlethwaite,*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Postlethwaite

John Barnard,**
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barnard

I know it's trendy to knock the British but the fact is that there are some things they are actually world leaders in.

I would however argue that it was that great Austrian, Niki Lauda who insisted on ending the long dinner breaks with free red wine, when he arrived at Ferrari in 1974.

Again, Ferrari had just had a period of failure, in fact their cars were so bad they didn't bother to enter the 1973 British grand Prix, it was a way of, "punishing" us for being good at our jobs, although that was never actually said, just like the British Grand Prix of 1966......

Despite the love/hate relationship, Ferrari and the British have always worked very well together, Hawthorn and Collins in the Fifties, even Brooks, then Surtees and Parkes, Enzo held great respect and affection for them all, and they were all honest and loyal to him, if not his team managers.....

It's a long story.

posted on 8/9/13

Cheers for the insight POB I know the history but you missunderstand the point I was making with "And what difference does the nationality make to throwers of pasta?" I meant why repeatedly call them Italian Spaghetti throwers

posted on 8/9/13

That'd make things interesting.

If anything does happen then I can see Button and Raikkonen moving to Ferrari, while Alonso moves back to Lotus and Massa moves to McLaren.

posted on 8/9/13

" I meant why repeatedly call them Italian Spaghetti throwers"

Yes, I understand,

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100621175659AAkBv1G

But I am not bothered by the term, "Limeys" when used to define the British or any other name of that nature

However, it takes all sorts, even us English have the odd eccentricity with our food.

http://www.cheese-rolling.co.uk/the_event.htm

So I suppose we are a nation of "cheese-rollers"?

That seems less useful than pasta throwing, at least that is for a reason, although I suppose if you are on top of a hill with a large round cheese and want to get it to the bottom quickly, rolling it is the intelligent thing to do. Interesting!

You will notice how the police use all available means to keep an eye on such evil, underhand and subversive ( and presumably, "Un-English" ) activity!

comment by WTCBU (U13662)

posted on 8/9/13

Tino – I copied the phrase from a newspaper article written some time ago about the chaotic way that the Ferrari team behaved. They would frequently lose their tempers with each other hence the phrase “throwing spaghetti at each other”.

Not meant to describe all Italians.

posted on 8/9/13

Lads don't worry about it
Just parked up goin to go find our stand now

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