Martin O'Neill should be sacked!

This is my problem. People seem to be falling over themselves to appoint O'Neill, and some of the media were even doing this as far back as a few months ago. I hope people aren't building him up to be some form of Messiah.

Won't be long before Tony O'Donoghue starts asking MON/Trap's successor about the security of their job

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Ha! I like it Pogued!
Why everyone thinks we should be winning all these matches is beyond me! And someone made the comment in a previous post about MON or whoever bringing in the younger players......who are we talking about? Name a couple of them, because I dont know of them.

It's not about winning in Austria away.

You identify your rivals in the Group- and your target is to better them over two games. Then win both games against the lower teams.

For us this meant:

0pts against Germany. (Rational to write us off here)
3/4pts against Sweden
3/4pts against Austria
6pts against Kazakhstan
6pts against Faroes

Our target is going to be 18pts-20pts.

Not unreasonable- all we had to do was win our home games against our rivals and just turn up against the Faroes and Kazakhstan.

If we went out on 18pts, I would be disappointed but at least we would have given it a go. But to go out on 14pts is poor.

You can only pee with the todger you've been given.

A new man can't strengthen the squad.

Some fairly moronic comments on here. Well a new coach can start by evaluating the pool of available talent which is approx 50 players between the EPL and Championship. As we all know Trap barely took in a Premiership game never mind a championship one in 5 years. We can move beyond the archaic set in stone 442 formation and mix formations as most modern teams do with 433 or 4231 and then start picking the team on form for the first time in 5 years with no clicks or favouritisms.

He can call upon the dozen or so players Trap exiled for no reason and implement a mix of our play and not be afriad to pass the ball rather than punting it everytime like some kind of Fred Flinstone inspired backwards tactics. Trap never once viewed an U21 game in his 5 years, the list is endless to his failings and it smacked of an arrogant stubborn man whose living off past glories of 20 years ago!! The last 5 years have been tortuous and its apparent by the lowest attendances in my lifetime. We need a manager who can motivate not some excuse grinding dinosaur who talks the players down at every turn. if people cant see that then they either dont care or simply have no interest in irish football.

The new manger will evaluate the 50 or so players and then do you what did yesterday Len, pick practically the same starting line up as Trap. Your suggested team:

Westwood, Coleman, O'Shea, Dunne, Wilson, McCarthy, Hoolahan, Gibson, Walters, Long, Pilkington

7 of those started against Sweden, 1 came off the bench and the keeper is a 50/50 toss up anyway. Only Gibson through his own choice wasn’t in the squad. 8 of them started against Austria and 1 came off the bench. So while a new manager may decide to try a different formation let’s not pretend the team will be drastically different. Now presumably you want an extra man in midfield to try and gain an advantage in there. Good luck getting Dunne, JOS or your other alternative Pearse to carry the ball out from the back to start the moves. Oh, and good luck getting an international manager who puts his neck on the line and picks a side purely on club form while ignoring players tried, tested and reliable at international level. If Robbie Keane is still making himself available he’ll be picked and looking at your team it isn’t hard to see why, that team would struggle badly for goals.

As for the ‘exiled players’? Who are they? Apart from Gibson who of these exiled players will even make the team?

And listen, you can stop banging the Trap out drum, he’s gone, your dreams have come true. But don’t forget his ‘past glories’ came as recently as Austrian Bundesliga title in 2007 and Benifica’s 1st league title in 11 years in 2005. I’ll leave one of the players he allegedly mis-managed to sum up how he felt about this guy who apparently couldn’t motivate the team getting the boot – James McCarthy:

"I'm gutted to be honest. He was a good manager and I enjoyed working under him. It is a blow to all the players. It has just happened - I didn't expect it to happen. If you look at his record, how well he has done for Ireland, he has got us to the Euros and he fell short, just, of France in a qualifier. We were in contention to qualify for the (2014) World Cup but unfortunately we slipped up on Friday and last night we conceded a late, late goal. It is one of those things. The FAI has had a meeting today and seen the time for him to go. It is disappointing, the players enjoyed working under him. It took me a while to get into the team but thankfully I got in and he stuck by me. He gave me my chance. He has been good for me." McCarthy was speaking as he was officially unveiled as an Everton player at a press conference on Merseyside. The former Hamilton midfielder joined the Toffees in a £14million deadline-day move from Wigan last week - a transfer that may not have happened without Trapattoni's co-operation. With the transfer deadline approaching last Monday, Trapattoni gave McCarthy permission to report for international duty a day late last week. McCarthy said: "I spoke to him last week and he said, 'No bother, just report on Tuesday morning. Hopefully everything goes well for you'. I'm thankful that he allowed that to happen. A lot of managers would have said, 'We want you in and fly over.' But with the time, at such short notice, it (the move) may not have happened - so a big thank you to him."

Btw, your “if people cant see that then they either dont care or simply have no interest in irish football” comment? Are you really so ignorant/arrogant to think that?!

Good riddance.

Poor Trap, sacked for doing a part time job with minimal effort for millions paid out over last 5 years. His fat useless assistant alone was on more cash then any of our previous 4 managers!! Didn't watch a game for 4 years and picked the same starting 11 regardless culminating in little squad evolution for his first 5 years then tries to claim credit for bringing new players thru in his last 6 months after his embarrassing efforts at the euros followed by the shambolic kazak and german games. Guys a chancer, not gonna bother talking about his brain dead long ball tactics or his complete disinterest in creative players or youth, couldn't even be bothered attending an u21 game in all his time. There's plenty of ex players and current who've made there feelings known. Our ranking is now 44th and falling like a stone and god knows how our 4th place finish will affect our euro chances!! Good riddance and I doubt Gibson, 2 x Reids, Hoolahan, Stokes, Pearce, O'Brien will shed many tears not too mention the unspoken current team members who will undoubtedly be delighted to see the back of the pigeon English hoof merchant!! Took the absolute pi%$ from day one and behaved like we weren't worthy of his services, what kind of managers regularly talks down his players to cover his own glaring shortfalls, can't imagine the Greek mgr did that when they won the euros or hiding when he took Korea to the semi's!! Anyone who mourns his passing I'm afraid has zero knowledge about football as far as I'm concerned!

http://www.newstalk.ie/reader/47.302.347/13881/0/

59th in the world, thats Trap's parting gift to us. Pathetic manager, what a joke, on the same day he departs with €500k in his back pocket. Unbeleivable