Moyes sacked!?!?!?!

Kagawa - Firstly, Moyes doesn't have an open cheque book. The club pretends that it does. The Bale 'bid' being an example of our PR campaign to try and appease supporters.

So Real Madrid president Perez is part of our PR team now?

Also Kagawa, how do you know, based on what you have seen so far, that we wll finish 2nd or 3rd?

Reddevil

I'm not entirely sure whether Perez actually knows or whether he was just speaking of the reports. I simply cannot believe the club made that bid for Bale. It just smacks of saying to the fans... "well, at least we bid big for Bale."

As for your second point, I can't say for certain, but I'm confident. I simply cannot believe that these players can drop to such a level. We have players like De Gea, abrilliant goalkeeper. Forget the nonsense of last weekend, we didn't even try to win. But before that, we have looked solid defensively. Vidic's form has been brilliant. We still have players like Rooney and Van Persie. Nani looks good. Carrick has been the best performing central midfielder in the league for two seasons now. Fellaini, whether people question his signing, HAS been one of the best performing midfielders in the league over the last few years. Rafael is brilliant. Simply put, there is too much quality in our squad to fail.

The problem is what Moyes is doing with these players. Rio is a liability at the moment. He's making major mistakes in every game and gets dominated in the air. We can do without. We also need to continue with the likes of Nani, Kagawa and Januzaj in the hope they all find form.

It hasn't been all bad. Like I said, the last week aside, we've controlled every game we've played.

I'd also says it's arguable to suggest that City have made a worse start than us, considering their start. Arsenal look good, but we're only 3 and 4 points behindoour supposed major rivals. It isn't the end of the world points wise.

This situation is on All-Fours with Leeds signing of Clough, and the Players attitude, apathetic approach and total reverence of Revie.(pardon the pun).

The dressing room got rid of him and i fear it will happen here!

other than yesterday , I doubt the results would have been any different under Fergie. We have suffered heavy defeats by City and lost to Liverpool lots of times under Fergie and rarely beat Chelsea at home in the league. Even the West Brom defeat wouldn't have been unthinkable under Fergie. Last season without RVP we were very ordinary.
I prefer to wait until the end of the season before making judgment.

keep moyes

If e bid £100m for Bale and Madrid only £86 , do you think Levy would have allowed the Madrid move to gk ahead? No chance

Didn't Chelsea bid way more for Modric than Real did but Levy still sold Modric to Real?

Kagawa - I'm not entirely sure whether Perez actually knows or whether he was just speaking of the reports. I simply cannot believe the club made that bid for Bale. It just smacks of saying to the fans... "well, at least we bid big for Bale."

Perez said we bid. Just because you cant believe it doesnt mean it didnt happen He has no reason to lie about it.

i heard Bale and his agent were at OT / Carrington for talks, dont know if that was true. I suspect we were Spurs' insurance policy as they had spent the Bale money even before Madrid signed him.