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Wigan v Town Official Match Thread

Welcome to the official match thread (from a Town perspective anyway) of the big clash of the blue and white that is:

TTTTTTTTTWigan AthleticTTTTTTTTT

Vs.

TTTTTTTTTHuddersfield TownTTTTTTTTT

This is only the 25th meeting of our two teams, the last being 17 February 2013 when they stuffed us 4-1 in the FA Cup on their way to winning the trophy. That was our first game against them for a decade when we were both in League 2 before their meteoric rise to the promised land of the Premier League.

The DW Stadium is a nice modern ground, not dissimilar to our own and should be a place where proper football can be played. There is no real issue between the fans so should be a good trip out for all. A popular topic for all fans is the cost of football and Dave Whelan has been vocal recently about the issue of pricing and getting fans into the stadium. This is easier for a club with a massive parachute payment like Wigan but the sentiment is correct.

Wigan arent having the best of seasons considering the money and players they have at their disposal with a lot of games in the league and in Europe to deal with. Hopefully this should help Town as they had a tough test last night against QPR, holding them to a very respectable draw (just as we did!).

Head to Head
Town have won 11 of the 24 games, the last being in the 1993, and they have won 7. This obviously means little but current form has Town ahead at the moment but a well earned point last night will have given them a boost.

Team News

Wigan Athletic

Wigan have recently brought in Marc Albrighton in from Villa and he played last night so should be there on Saturday. They also have the impressive young player from Man Utd Nick Powell on loan, although he hasn't fulfilled his potential just yet. Town wont forget McManaman from making Hunt look decidedly average last season (thankfully Palace didn't watch that game!) and he will be a constant threat no doubt, boosted by an extended contract. The young keeper Lee Nicholls seems highly rated but being young hasn't been fully tested yet and we know how a your promising keeper can be inconsistent under pressure! They have quality throughout the team and will be a threat to us.

Town:

The big question for Town will be who plays up front. Stead lead the line on Saturday with Holmes just behind him and apart from his goal he didnt have the best of games. That may open the door for someone else like Carr but I suspect Stead will be given a chance to build his confidence after his goal. I suspect that after the training ground bust up both Paterson and Clayton will still be out of the equation and we will just have to see about Gerrard.
For me Hammill is the first name on the team sheet at the moment and I think Ward probably deserves a slot there too after a decent performance on Saturday. I want to see Gobern given a chance ahead of someone like Southern who isnt match fit, but may have to go with him if Clayton is still out of the picture. I wouldnt be against trying Holmes again from the start as Wigan will be less rough in the tackle than Leeds and so it may suit him more. Saying that its hard not to find a place for Scannell as he was fantastic when he came on and his strength and skill changed the game for us.

My Starting 11s
Huddersfield TownWigan Athletic
SmithiesNicholls
RichardsBoyce
Clarke (c)Perch
LynchMcArthur
DixonShotton
GobernBarnett
HoggMcManaman
HolmesMcCann
ScannellHolt
SteadPowell
WardAlbrighton

Social Side
Anyone who has been out in Wigan on boxing day knows it can be an interesting place for a few beers! As I tend to be visiting inlaws whenever Im in Wigan I dont know too much about drinking around the ground so I have got this info from the football grounds guide website:

"Simon Wright a visiting West Bromwich Albion fan informs me; 'Beside the away turnstiles is an entrance to a bar, specifically for the use of away fans. It has the usual bar, big screen television and sells pies, as well as teas and coffees. It's a great facility and welcomes families' It is know as the Marquee Bar as it resembles one inside. The traditional pub for away fans visiting the DW stadium is the Red Robin, which is only a few minutes walk away from the ground opposite the Cinema Complex.

Otherwise in the centre of town is a Wetherspoons outlet called the 'Moon Under Water' which was popular with away supporters on my last visit. Also worth a visit is the award winning 'Anvil' pub, which is located next to the bus station. Both these pubs are listed in the CAMRA Good Beer Guide. Also worth a mention is the Berkeley on Wallgate (near the railway station). This fair sized pub, had a good mix of home and away supporters on my last visit, serves five ever changing real ales and shows Sky Sports on a huge screen. Otherwise alcohol is available inside the stadium. Andrew MacGregor adds; 'The Swan and Railway pub opposite North Western railway station was very welcoming. They encouraged us to put our Reading flag up in the window and were very pleasant to us all'."

Visiting supporters are requested to use Car Park 1 at the stadium, the first car park on the right on Stadium Way. To reach the Stadium from Car Park 1, continue on foot along Stadium Way towards the Stadium. Visiting supporters are seated in the North Stand. From the official website the options in the ground are as follows:

Carling - £3.20/pint
Worthington's - £3.20/pint
Coke/Diet Coke/Fanta - £1.60
Coke Zero (bottle) - £1.70
Oasis Summer Fruit - £1.70
Abbey Well Water - £1.40
Tea,/Coffee/Hot Chocolate/Bovril - £1.80
Crisps - £0.90
Herta Hot Dog - £2.60
Mars Duo/ Snickers Duo, Twix Extra - £1.00
Tear n Share - Malteasers/Minstrels/Skittles - £2.50
Pies - £2.30
Meal Deal 1- Hot drink and a Pie - £3.90
Meal Deal 2 - Soft Drink and a Hot Dog - £4.00

My Prediction

Im optimistic for the weekend in that I think we can play good football and score even without the goal machine Vaughan. Therefore and just to wind my Latics fan wife up Im going for a 3-1 win for Town!

posted on 4/11/13

Same old tripe rolled out on a Friday, " we will look to build on that win " boll-ocks. Then after the inevitable defeat. " We will get back to the drawing board "! !Every fooking week is the same.

comment by Mirf (U3751)

posted on 4/11/13

38 can say what he wants, but the facts remain that we lost by the smallest of margins, to a team including many players with Premiership experience and to a club who are being helped with a £20 million parachute payment, plus they are also the current FA Cup holders and will also be competing in the Europa League competition this season.

So, although I didn't see the match myself it would appear from many reports that the game could have gone either way, since there was little to choose between both teams.

Robin's also adds in today's Yorkshire Post "his side were unfortunate to lose the game and the result didn't tell the full story", plus "I thought we did well and to come to Wigan and have the lions share of possession is very good and overall I'm pleased, but also disappointed that we've not taken at least a point - and maybe even three"

As for the immature Hammill, Robins did right to criticise him in public, particularly following Hammill's public show of petulance towards Robins, following his substitution.

Robins also says in today's Post that "the 25 year old (Hammill) needs to change his attitude, or he is going to end up paying us money to play for us, because he's being fined every week . Nothing really surprises me with Adam. That's just him - he needs to grow up. He's just been to see me and apologised and that's what happens - I fine him and we get on with it, until next time"

So, considering Hammill was very lucky not to have been jailed earlier for lashing out at a woman medic who came to his aid, I reckon Robins is doing the right thing in making our fans fully aware of just what he his having to deal with regarding Hammill's overall childish attitude.

In short, Hammill needs to keep his gob shut and concentrate fully on what he is being well paid to do. ie: to live the very privileged life of a current day footballer.

posted on 4/11/13

I want our players to be upset at being withdrawn, it shows they care. And if he's not getting the service then he's every right to be p-ssed off.

We're not overly blessed with talent but Hammill can be a genuine match winner given the right supply. He's played most of the season out of position at wing back too without being a

Tell you something else, I'd rather Robins left the club than Hammill...

posted on 4/11/13

Mirf, I see your point. But the fact of the matter is that a loss is a loss whether it's 1-0 or 6-0.

posted on 4/11/13

38 has just said what i said after the match on Saturday . Only difference is he's worded it better .
Like i said on Saturday we were shiiit

posted on 4/11/13

Two things.

If we played with one man up front, Literally on his own, and still to be within a shout of getting some thing from the game near the end.....as Coyle said, "We had to hang on towards the end".
Yes, As a team we did do ok taking into account they did us in the FA Cup at our place with ease just a few months ago.

But.
This 'lone striker' tactic has to stop.
Also,the fortuitous deflection kept us in it. I've seen it.
But for that, The original shot was missing by a country mile. So along with this ridiculous one man up front formation, the gap is never going to be breached.
It would seem we just get beaten by...
Less

So that's the work in progress is it ?
30 odd games in, He still uses the same formation as the two previous managers.
And statistically Mirf, nowhere near his success ratio at Coventry .
I think, or would suggest, rather than Wigan's financial advantage being mentioned as an excuse for Towns 'improvement'. It might be fair to point out, The departure of Martinez, & the appointment of Coyle may have more to do with this improvement...
Just saying.
What do you think ?

1 man up front is NEVER going to work.

comment by Mirf (U3751)

posted on 4/11/13

Darn,

Don't forget Town are not competing on a level playing field with most of the clubs in this division.

If we'd beaten Wigan, we would have been on the fringe of the play-off's and only 3 points behind the likes of reading and Forest, who have spent an absolute sh-t load of money, compared to Town.

So I still maintain Robin's is doing OK, given the level of competition in The Championship and off hand, I cant think of anyone who might have done any better, except of course Wor Lee. ably backed up Derek, Terry & Steve.

Anyhow, foc Town - when are the Shaymen going to win an away game?

posted on 5/11/13

fair do's Mirf,

You have me over a barrel with that one

Well smashed at the weekend, have a butchers at 'FCHT's report.

Back to Town,
Look I agree mate, The result wasn't bad...
A definite improvement compared to our last meeting with them,
& QPR got nothing there either, endorsing the fact WIgan are indeed hard to beat at home.

But the 1 man formula isn't right (imo).
Even if you & others agree it is 'a work in progress'..ok,
I just wish he'd stop saying it, because to me, it comes across like an excuse..
I would much rather he'd said something along the lines of,
'We were beaten by a better side on the day,'
or ' if my players would support the lone striker with more urgency when appropriate, I think we could get better results', because this is clearly not happening,
So.
are the players carrying out instruction to the letter !
or failing to do what MR intends ?

We need to know one way or the other,
Saying 'work in progress' doesn't do that.

posted on 5/11/13

Qpr got a point didn't they?

comment by Mirf (U3751)

posted on 5/11/13

Considering the quality of their players and the amount of brass the've spent, QPR should get 3 points every game, never mind one.

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