Bayern not unbeaten

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 26 minutes ago
Ok. Yes Gold represents 1st. But in the context of our debate, I guarantee that UTD fans would rather have 'THE TREBLE' and Liverpool fans the European Cup for Keeps, than the Golden Prem Trophy.
I Prefer the Golden Badge on the sleeve myself.
It's an achievement, recognised by the Prem and deservedly so.
The Invincible term tagged to it, is a bit overrated.
Kinda gives a false impression, especially when Arsenal lost more games in that season than UTD did in their Treble winning year.
But hey ho...
I know you understand where I'm coming from.
This is not the first time you've had this chat, right?

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And Arsenal fans the Invincibles, as it is an undefeated feat. Unlike the TREBLE.

ok do a Neutral survey, and lets see what comes where. i already know.
The Golden Prem is last all the way.
and again, Arsenal lost more games than UTD did the Entire season which includes all cup competitions.
We are talking over 60+ games. An Epic feat.
38-0 doesn't even compare.
thats why everyone talks about doing quads and trebles rather than going unbeaten in the league.
if it happens it happens, but thats not something anyone's really bothered about.
So in this case, you're cherished Gold is actually a Bronze.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_Bundesliga
Bayern seem to always lose 1

I'd rather have won the treble

To go unbeaten for an entire season in the toughest league in the world, something man u, liverpool, chelsea, man c, everton etc etc NEVER did, is clearly the greatest achievement by a football club ever.

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 12 hours, 9 minutes ago
ok do a Neutral survey, and lets see what comes where. i already know.
The Golden Prem is last all the way.
and again, Arsenal lost more games than UTD did the Entire season which includes all cup competitions.
We are talking over 60+ games. An Epic feat.
38-0 doesn't even compare.
thats why everyone talks about doing quads and trebles rather than going unbeaten in the league.
if it happens it happens, but thats not something anyone's really bothered about.
So in this case, you're cherished Gold is actually a Bronze.
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Completely wrong.
They only talk about doing the Treble/Quad because that is achievable for them as they've already lost a game in the league.
Anytime a team goes half the season unbeaten, or even at home, a huge hype is made about it. Remember City and United when they failed?
This clearly goes to show which is harder.

''Completely wrong.
They only talk about doing the Treble/Quad because that is achievable for them as they've already lost a game in the league.
So during Pre-season, this isn't talked about no?
its only when they've lost a game, is it? hmmm?
hmm, think someones making up stuff to suit their point.....
never heard commentators say, 'well thats the unbeaten record gone, but they can focus on the Treble now'
Anytime a team goes half the season unbeaten, or even at home, a huge hype is made about it. Remember City and United when they failed?''

Really? Completely wrong?
i can't recall during preseason, when a club or pundits , experts etc, talk about a team going unbeaten, as the number one goal.
never heard ''yeah, we want that Gold Prem Trophy''
Like i said, do a neutral survey, even with people that don't like football. see if you can surprise me.
You're biased, I'm biased. but i know which scenario comes bottom every time.

''This clearly goes to show which is harder.''
Never said what Arsenal did wasn't hard, but i will disagree about its importance and where it ranks as a priority and the term 'Invincible'.
again especially when Arsenal lost more games than the '99 UTD team did.

Well it comes down to value, would you rather have something unique aka priceless; or 3 very high value items but combined not as valuable as the unique.

Is what Arsenal did Unique? Of course, no doubt.
Will live unscathed through the test of time.
But That wasn't the point of this debate.
Just cos it's Unique, doesn't mean it's any more important than 3 Trophies won in a season.
I dispute the term 'Invincibles' and it's importance compared to a Treble winning Team.
'The Unique season' I can live with...

Well the debate is "What would you rather have?" So my point is entirely relevant.

Think of a sprinter, would be rather hold the world record fastest time fir ask eternity, or be known to win 3 Gold medals for 100M, 200M and 100M relay.