WOB's I know you have good reasons as to why you think the great man should step down but at what point did you realise/decide that he's not the right man to take us forward?
My conclusion happened in stages:
10/11 - After cup final I wondered if he'd ever win us a trophy again
11/12 - 8-2 United. I realised we were way off the top wondered where he was taking us
12/13 - After selling RVP to United confirmed his lost ambition and acceptance of superior teams
13/14 - After Jan I realised what I guessed in that he still lacks cutting edge in the market.
Then Liverpool I remembered he's easy to beat for clever coaches.
Then Chelsea, considering what was at stake and what their manager said about Arsene beforehand and on his 1000th game everything was set up that performance showed me that even the players couldn't pull their fingers out for him and that was the final straw.
In light of my article from yesterday I'm not sure which type of manager we should look at if Wenger did quit in the summer however my firm belief that Wenger won't put our main issues right next season still keeps me as a member of the WOB.
When Did Wenger Blow It For You
posted on 19/4/14
LOUD NOISES!
posted on 19/4/14
comment by The Number 4 Shirt. (U19487)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I think RVP was perfectly gracious and did everything he could to appease Arsenal fans. At the end of the day it's not as if he joined Spurs or Chelsea, he joined United, a team who you hadn't competed seriously with for 7 years, who he couldn't see you catching in his time left at the top and who weren't local rivals. He'd lost faith in Wenger, but still did respect him and admire him, and only ever, to this day, speaks highly of Arsenal and Arsene. His one negative to say on your club is of his treatment by the fans after he left, and I agree with him. I understand the feelings of frustration, but it's too simplistic to just blame van Persie and that's all. Blame the people who got him thinking he was wasting his only chance to win things in his football career, Wenger, his coaches and the board.
Being brutally honest, I think the fans vulgar abuse of him has damaged the image of Arsenal far more than him leaving to win the premier league with United. If you played for Valencia, and were a world class footballer in van Persie's position, and Barcelona wanted to buy you, you'd move after all.
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Agreed
posted on 19/4/14
The first serious belief in Wenger's inability was strangely enough when we last won a trophy. The 2005 F.A. Cup Final was a symbolic tactical disaster. How we managed to win that game I don't know. If that was what Wenger was claiming to be his defensive strategy then good help us.
Then that summer he said what he would continue to say what he'd been saying from about 2 previous seasons before, that he knew where we had gone wrong in the previous season and that he was going to seriously strengthen the teamin the summer. Did he hell. By 2008 (with the annual depletion of the squad, the empty promises, his constant BS, lies and excuses, his blatant disregard for silverware, and so on, and so on....) I had enough of him and wanted him out !
posted on 19/4/14
Very strange reasoning from most, especially the ones citing individual match results. An AKB could easily do the same thing picking out good results instead. This is football everyone can lose or take a beating.
As someone who wants Wenger to stay, my main frustration was not buying a striker, it's as simple as that. It was the difference between the title and where we are now imo. Only due to injuries though if we hadn't lost theo and Ramsey long term the league would have been ours. Ramsey makes Giroud into a world beater. What I don't get though is that it was clear Wenger was desperate for a striker he said we were short up front many a time during the transfer window. Did it ever cross your minds that he was as frustrated as anyone about not getting a striker in Jan? Who was avaliable? One of my mates wants him to go because we didn't buy Costa why not Messi while we are at it. People live in a football manager fantasy sometimes.
The problem with the responses here though is that they are completely one sided you are choosing to ignore superb transfer activity like Ozil and focus just on the bad which was not to buy a striker.
For me, the van persie to United thing was the most humiliating thing Wenger has done
posted on 19/4/14
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/264501
why was this closed to comments...?
Best valuation of Rosicky i've seen on here OP...
posted on 19/4/14
07/08 - Sellling Hleb and allowing Flamini to leave over 10-15k or whatever it was he wanted..
Just didn't seem right allowing 2 players who had settled and gave the team flow to leave when we were actually challenging for the title for 1st time in yrs.
Things rapidly declined, and I've always had simmers of hatred for Wenger and the club since.
posted on 19/4/14
An AKB could easily do the same thing picking out good results instead. This is football everyone can lose or take a beating.
This is true to a point but any top manager can WIN a game but no top manager consistently loses big games in such a manner as Arsene,
for example i changed my thoughts on him when spurs got 5 past us,it was enough to spur them on to lift the MM cup and enough for there belief to lift and finally beat us in the league,
the tide was changing,not like at CFC with Maureen smashing our indian sign over them,this was different as it seemed like they were on the up while we stood still,
thank goodness they were still so poor that a stagnated AFC is a point or so better than a rampant spurs or we would have a lot more to complain about and he'd prob be long gone already.
While i was airing at this time my views on Wenger AKBs would reply
"its the board,theres no money,its the oil clubs"
Now all there excuses have been voided the majority want him out or want him to change,they will join the mass of the out group because he will never change,
they do say never say never,
well im saying never.
posted on 19/4/14
ignore the 2nd belief to lift,copy paste error
posted on 19/4/14
The Number 4 Shirt
But we showed loyalty with him for 8 years through his injuries then 1 good season and he wants out ASAP he's a prik mate and I wish him the worst.
posted on 19/4/14
Sorry moving to Utd is disgusting. Moving to Utd is worse than moving to Chelsea.