seb vettel

I don't agree with using team orders for things like that but I do think Seb was in the wrong.

To me, F1 is just as much a team sport as it is an individuals sport, and to me a truly great driver is one who can work as part of a team, just as much as he can as an individual.

Seb needs to learn that he is not bigger than the team. Nobody is.

good evening bwfc

from my understanding vettel thought he was on the same race strategy as DR so saw no reason to move over -
i think when he was informed that the strategies were different he then moved over -

on a logical note i suppose we have to count up how many races over the yrs have been flucked up because of team orders and whether we want to see them used in the races before we condemn any driver for refusing to carry out the order -

I think if team mates are battling for podium positions, I wholeheartedly condone what Mercedes did by allowing their drivers to race. However, if one of the team members is fighting for the WDC against another driver from another team then I think team orders are probably ok. I'm pretty sure though that a driver would rather win a WDC without help from his team mates.

For the positions lower down the grid, team orders are more acceptable as the team are usually trying to release the quicker driver with the overall intention of overtaking more guys further ahead.

On SV, I don't think that drivers should just yield and wave the guy behind through but if the quicker guy is right behind you is clearly quicker then yes, it is a hard pill to swallow but in the interest of the team, they should obey. As a few people have mentioned, if DR had been released earlier he may have caught and overtook FA. Personally I don't think he would have but that's what the team would be hoping for.

I don't care too much for team orders in general but you just know that at some point, one driver who has to give a place up to his team mate will then maybe need to rely on his team mate to return the favour.

Put it this way though, I prefer team order which allow the quicker driver to pass rather than ones that keep the quicker driver behind (ie. last years Malaysian GP with LH and NR).

The racing fan in me is against team orders but. There are times they are necessary. At Bahrain I thought Mercedes were going to issue team orders because the safety car destroyed Hamilton's lead and fair play to them for it.

What I do not like is drivers who benefit from team orders who refuse to allow others benefit. Seb being such a driver

i look at it the other way, i agree with Seb in that, quite often titles can be decided by a single point. If seb was winning and would of won the title if he hadnt let Ricardo through in an earlier race, how silly would he have felt.

For me i would want me my drivers to be winners, and winners arent nice, and shouldnt be. Treat every race like its a cup final, win at all costs. Let the team principal worry about anything else. Your job as a driver is drive as fast as you can

I do not like team orders mate, but I have a problem when you benefit from them and then refuse to abide by them when the shoe is on the other foot

I suppose just a further demonstration of Sebs attitude - win at all costs.

I really dont buy into the claims he isnt a nice human being, from various TV interviews i have seen, he seems a decent, humble, quirky bloke. Out on track, he is a bit of an animal, and i like that in sport.

mixed feelings on team orders.

But Vettel definitely not a team player that we know for sure.

In a sense I guess you could say it's right that he looks after number 1. On the other hand if it were not for his team he would probably not have won the last 4 championships.

I don't see anything wrong with “tough luck” at least Daniel Ricciardo now knows the score and that if he wants to get past Sebastian Vettel he's got to go for it.

On the other hand, Daniel Ricciardo I think would obey the instruction and smile while he did it.

Tactically, a driver should not need team orders to let the other one through. He should know it's the right thing for the position that his team is in at any particular moment.

Watched the F1 show - and they where making the point that if they had let him through, he could of got past alonso. Again i dont buy this, to get past alonso, usually would take at least 2 laps, plus the red bulls a diesel in straight lines.