Giggs next manager?

I thought it would be the way united would go. Considering how successfully it worked for Liverpool through a succession on manager though the 70s/80s I think it's a good way to transition from one very successful manager to another without having to change too much. When you look at the model Liverpool used, none of the managers had managed previously so I don't think it would have been or would be necessary for Giggs to go elsewhere - he has learnt a winning formula from SAF. He could also have carried on playing - Kenny managed it which actually managing!

*while not which!

It's likely that we will consult LVG before appointing him. By then he'll have worked with him for 3 years, and he'll hopefully be able to say whether Giggs has what it takes.

comment by CutMeAndIBleedRed (U7593)
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I thought it would be the way united would go. Considering how successfully it worked for Liverpool through a succession on manager though the 70s/80s I think it's a good way to transition from one very successful manager to another without having to change too much. When you look at the model Liverpool used, none of the managers had managed previously so I don't think it would have been or would be necessary for Giggs to go elsewhere - he has learnt a winning formula from SAF. He could also have carried on playing - Kenny managed it which actually managing!
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I don't think that will work in the modern game unfortunatley. The game is much bigger now and a club is not as insular as it once was, too many variables at play now that just were not part of the game back when the boot room was so successful.

If you try to promote from within but the people you're promoting just are not good enough (I'm thinking Souness) it can be detrimental to the club. All you rivals will scour the globe for the best people and that could leave you behind.

kneerash, possibly, but then wouldn't you think he'd be better placed taking over having been assistant for three years working with the first team players for years as opposed to working with the youngsters in a level below league two?

Hard to say. I'd like to see Giggs prove himself away from Old Trafford at a premier league club before he is even considered for the job, and I'm not alone in this, but the club will just have to come to a decision in three years time.

A lot will depend on the position of the team on and off the pitch in three years time. If we are top and with a strong squad of young players that won't need radical changes then Giggs transitioning to the manager may be more likely.

However, if work is needed to get us back to the top and there are better more established names around then you'd have to fancy that to happen instead.

The appointment of Moyes on a six year contract to then have it terminated before the season even ended shows that even the club cannot accurately make and stick to long term projects given the competitiveness at the top of the prem now Fergie has left.

Are you all mad.

From what I know about LVG, Giggs is going to be a big fat nothing. He may have the title assistant manager but in reality his opinion will not be sought out or valued, his duties will be pretty limited and his power will be non existent.

Ask your self why a manager who has done it all would care what Giggs has to say, if he wants to know how Fergie did it, he can pick up the phone.

From what I have read this was a request from the club, im sure LVG will perhaps want more than the three years as this will probably be the last time he manages a really top club. Why would he treat Giggs with anything other than contempt, having been force on him with no experience and having never demonstrated any ability to be able to do the job, when he could have his pick of No.2’s who’s opinion and knowledge he does trust and respect.

He will most certainly not groom Giggs until he has a credible shot of being fired for him.

LVG also loves his possession. You are going to be a tippy tappy club.

"From what I know about LVG..."

So not much at all then.

Trojan, I remember reading LVG say he always likes to keep on a member of staff from the previous regime as a buffer.

So the notion that Giggs was forced on him may not ring true.

Kluivert didn't have any coaching qualifications so what exactly does he do for the Dutch team and do that Giggs won't, other than being Dutch?

I'm not sold on the idea of Giggs being groomed and eventually taking over. But you seem to be heading so far the other way that it doesn't even sound logical.

Just depends on how things work out. There is great optimism about LVG, but it may not work out as well as we hope. And if LVG was sacked at some point, how much blame would Giggs be accountable for (would you want a total clear out).

And of course there are both great players who don't turn out to be great managers, and great number 2s who are found wanting in the hot seat.

So much is made of the class of 92 etc, but whilst that was a great bunch of players, doesn't mean they will make great coaches / managers. Sometimes it can be difficult for players so closely associated with a club to become an effective manager, I think it can be beneficial to be an outsider coming in with fresh eyes.

If Giggs is good enough, he may well indeed one day become Utd manager, but in a few years time we might be saying 'great player, but couldn't cut it as a manager'.

LVG hasn't even taken to the dug-out yet, why are we concerning ourselves with what comes after?

Time will tell!