First things first i know there have already been a number of articles on transfers by myself and fellow members from the board so i apology in advance for anyone getting sick and tired of transfer talk but for me i can't get enough of hearing fellow fan's opinions about how they want the club to progress
Outs
dawson 5 mil
rose 7 mil
sigurdson 8 mil
lennon 8 mil ( if another winger is signed)
Capoue 10 million
Ade 5 million
Total = 43 Million
I know many members of the board are not going to agree with capoue being sold because capoue is an extremely good player however with sandro playing his position as well as bentaleb, paulinho and dembele being competent central midfielers i feel his transfer fee could be used to strengthen weaker areas.
I wouldn't want to get rid of any of the other seven new signings as they all have huge potential to improve, to be fair i wouldn't want capoue to go if it were not for sandro
Ins
Davies (LB) 10 million
Lovren (CB) 15 Million
konoplyanka (LW) 12 million
Lukaku (CF) 25 million
Net spend 19 million
There are also also many attractive cheaper and more obtainable alternatives in the market. At CB and LB you have De vrij a talented ball playing 22 year old with 11 international caps to his name and bruno martin indi a 22 year old LB with 13 international caps to his name. I would say they would cost 7 million each, both talented players who given time could become real players for us for a cheaper price.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8YvwKwfOog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2BlBkehweY
Remy and bony provide alternative options with remy being a far cheaper option at 8 million. Both have EPL experience and are quality players.
Here are some vids of bony, lukaku and remy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF0cWsD263g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4S_JSxaOI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF1fvyl107c
After watching these i would be very excited if we got one of these strikers however to keep things in perspective I thought that about paulinho, lamela and soldado haha
Anyway back on topic I feel if we were to bring in the 4 players mentioned or even the alternatives we could have a very succesful season
Lloris
Walker lovren vertonghen davies
sandro paulinho
Lamela Eriksen Konoplynka
Lukaku
Discuss
Ins and outs
posted on 5/6/14
The problem of say 8-10 yrs ago is that the DoF was probably buying far too many players than either the short-term needs or long-term planning could justify
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You mean 8-10 months?
posted on 5/6/14
why are people posting things where we have a net spend?
we haven't had a significant net spend for years now. we more or less break even or make money in transfer window after transfer window after transfer window, yetstill people think we are going to have a big net cash outlay...
not going to happen
posted on 5/6/14
Chronic
posted on 5/6/14
comment by The RDBD (demoted to supporting the team managed by Pep Guardiola) (U1062)
posted 18 minutes ago
"Regardless poch is a head coach and will work with who broomfield identifies as suitable for the squad. Poch will have input but that input will be minimal. Trains the squad picks the tactics does not do the ins and outs. Although that sounds insane near enough every big club operates this way."
Not insane at all.
The senior manager must communicate his short-term needs, and the DoF and scouts act accordingly. If the manager is aware of particular talent at various positions, no harm in that.
The DoF takes a longer-term view.
Keeping continuity in the talent base across the squad is the most important goal (new talent rising as older players come to the end of their time at Spurs) .
Outside talent will also be looked at that may serve the club well over a long period, regardless of the short-term needs.
The problem of say 8-10 yrs ago is that the DoF was probably buying far too many players than either the short-term needs or long-term planning could justify.
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Sounds insane, but that is probably because, if it was true, then it would be insane.
If it were true that many big team football managers/head coaches did not have a say in which players were brought in to the club and which were surplus to requirements then I am sure we would have much more discussion in the public domain than we have.
Something like the AVB departure, however that came about, would have generated discussion in the press (quality press if that is not a contradiction in terms, not the many internet blogs that exist) and in other media from football professionals and pundits on tv. That has not happened to any great degree.
The only time you hear and discuss anything like the fact that managers do not select players they want is on forums such as this, JA606. And as much as we like to kid ourselves that we have the knowledge to enter into these discusssions, most of the time we are repeating myths and rumours emenating elsewhere.
I do not say that the manager is the only person that deals wlth football transfers, in or out. I am sure that, where clubs have that setup, then it is done between the manager/DofF/CEO. A desired player, for example, would be identified either by the scouting team or any of the aforementioned staff, and it would be for all to agree.
The DofF is the board's representative that ensures that the manager does not just buy for the short term or for his own comfort levels, without regard to use of the company's money. Buying a 34 year old striker, for example, at £30m pounds. The value to cost would not be sustainable.
But any manager accepting a post where he would be blamed for results and performance without any say in the quality of the material he has to work with would be putting himself up for ruin.
But what do I know, I am just putting forward my opinion based on what my logic tells me in the face of having no other "OFFICIAL" source to refer to.
posted on 5/6/14
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posted on 5/6/14
Very Forza. Worth a lot more than the 12m I've seen quoted.
posted on 5/6/14
Just me Bill, Isn't 'Quality Press' an oxymoron?
posted on 5/6/14
comment by ShortBack&Sides (U17757)
posted 9 minutes ago
Just me Bill, Isn't 'Quality Press' an oxymoron?
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Well, I did qualify it if you read back my post.
But there would have been some sports editorials rather than transfer rumours, quoting reliable figures in the game, concerning managers/coaches without any degree of control over playing staff.
In other words, something that can be relied on because the quotes are directly attributable.
posted on 5/6/14
I've got to the point where I wont believe anything till it makes the official Spurs site. Even then I'm sceptical.
posted on 5/6/14
comment by just me Bill (U13802)
posted 53 minutes ago
comment by The RDBD (demoted to supporting the team managed by Pep Guardiola) (U1062)
posted 18 minutes ago
"Regardless poch is a head coach and will work with who broomfield identifies as suitable for the squad. Poch will have input but that input will be minimal. Trains the squad picks the tactics does not do the ins and outs. Although that sounds insane near enough every big club operates this way."
Not insane at all.
The senior manager must communicate his short-term needs, and the DoF and scouts act accordingly. If the manager is aware of particular talent at various positions, no harm in that.
The DoF takes a longer-term view.
Keeping continuity in the talent base across the squad is the most important goal (new talent rising as older players come to the end of their time at Spurs) .
Outside talent will also be looked at that may serve the club well over a long period, regardless of the short-term needs.
The problem of say 8-10 yrs ago is that the DoF was probably buying far too many players than either the short-term needs or long-term planning could justify.
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Sounds insane, but that is probably because, if it was true, then it would be insane.
If it were true that many big team football managers/head coaches did not have a say in which players were brought in to the club and which were surplus to requirements then I am sure we would have much more discussion in the public domain than we have.
Something like the AVB departure, however that came about, would have generated discussion in the press (quality press if that is not a contradiction in terms, not the many internet blogs that exist) and in other media from football professionals and pundits on tv. That has not happened to any great degree.
The only time you hear and discuss anything like the fact that managers do not select players they want is on forums such as this, JA606. And as much as we like to kid ourselves that we have the knowledge to enter into these discusssions, most of the time we are repeating myths and rumours emenating elsewhere.
I do not say that the manager is the only person that deals wlth football transfers, in or out. I am sure that, where clubs have that setup, then it is done between the manager/DofF/CEO. A desired player, for example, would be identified either by the scouting team or any of the aforementioned staff, and it would be for all to agree.
The DofF is the board's representative that ensures that the manager does not just buy for the short term or for his own comfort levels, without regard to use of the company's money. Buying a 34 year old striker, for example, at £30m pounds. The value to cost would not be sustainable.
But any manager accepting a post where he would be blamed for results and performance without any say in the quality of the material he has to work with would be putting himself up for ruin.
But what do I know, I am just putting forward my opinion based on what my logic tells me in the face of having no other "OFFICIAL" source to refer to.
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Not at all but they are not managers. the term head coach is purely to do just that coach. The idea is they work with what they have to improve the players. It is all about development these days, development does not just mean kids it could mean developing adebayor for example.
You might find in some cases where the head coach helps decide the player or wants a particular player the majority is left to the scouting network, the head of recruitment or sporting director.
That is the fashion these days rightly or wrongly that how it works.
How you describe sir is exactly what it was like 10 years ago but these days it is simply not like that. The structure is somewhat different both on the recruitment side and the coaching side of football.