How can it happen again - Herrera

Oh of course. I'm not suggesting it doesn't. Just wondering how detrimental the London factor is.

Yeah I agree with that.

LVG needs to be backed, of course, but I think it'll also be good to have another person giving some input into transfers, without undermining the manager.

I say this because Fergie bought Young and Moyes bought Fellaini. If LVG is looking at a similar transfer I hope it's vetoed so we don't end up with shîte like that.

In all seriousness, though, the problem with Woodward if he does have the sort of power that is speculated is that he's not a football man.

comment by Darren The King Fletcher - Maroudona (U10026)
posted 55 minutes ago
Yeah perhaps. But how detrimental is it that Moyes' relationship with Woodward isn't as tight as Fergie's and Gills?

Lots of things inevitably fall back to how Fergie did things. Problem is that there isn't anyone like him so carrying things out how Fergie did may not be best for the new regime.

There's also the issue of power. I doubt for a second that Gill had the power at the club that Fergie did, whereas with Moyes and Woodward it's the other way around (something I mentioned would probably happen as the club aren't naive enough to make Moyes the manager in the way Fergie was).

And if it's to be believed that it was actually Woodward that sacked Moyes, not the Glazers, it reiterates that poor further.

I read an article a while back highlighting this after Moyes was sacked and how rather than United going from Fergie's United to Moyes' it's gone from Fergie' to Woodward's.

Sounds very much like he's got the sort of influence many top clubs in Europe have given to people that aren't the manager, if indeed the rumours are to be believed, and that Woodward has his own vision, combined with that of the manager, as to where United are headed.

This touches upon what melton was saying earlier and it's a big sea of change at United. Interesting times ahead because the running of the club is very new to all of us, including those at the club.

Hopefully it doesn't go tïts up and Van Gaal does a good job and Woodward can take the club forward.
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Agree with alot of that Dazza

I've said a few times that this season is the real start of the post-fergie era

Macca

I think many thought the same. Especially with the sacrificial lamb theory.

Though I did expect the players to keep a lot of the mentality Fergie had instilled in them. Didn't expect Moyes' tenure to be so catastrophic.

Think a lot of players thought it was holiday time when Moyes came.

Moyes wasn't the right man but I still feel sorry for him the way some players reacted to his appointment. But that's footballers today sadly.

1982, yeah I agree.

Nah me neither

Moyes clearly made mistakes but that doesn't mean the club and some of the players arn't above critisism too

Long term Dazza, I think the pain of last season will be good for some United fans to have experienced,

It makes the future seem miles more exciting now with new players coming in, top class manager and starting from a position we can't really drop from (7th) rather than starting form a position of being champions by 11 points

Moyes as you say was the sacrificial lamb and I really hope the guy gets a chance somewhere else

Agree with that, Macca.

Herrera is signed now, OP.

comment by Darren The King Fletcher - Maroudona (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Agree with that, Macca.

Herrera is signed now, OP.
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According to talkSPORT

And the Bilbao website.

comment by Darren The King Fletcher - Maroudona (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
And the Bilbao website.
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Haha

yeah I just saw that